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Post by Disturbed Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:45 am

hardly...most of the fundamental theories that we require for daily life are not pure math. These kind of theories imo are a waste of time, these physicists and scientists could be doing way better things being gifted with intelligent minds. None of them so far measure to the genius of albert einstein and the old scientists who laid down the principles of all we know today. Tbh, unless these scientists can solidly disprove any of the fundamental theories successfully, they are better off trying to expand our knowledge rather than add 5 diff explanations for the same thing. Of course, there needs to be some1 trying to disprove these all the times to find out if we missed a trick, but no need to cause controversy.
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Post by Champion Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:33 pm

Guys there is a BIG fucking different mathmatically between providing evidence for a big bang or even string theory, and fucking werewolves and vampires. Lets not get silly. The point he is trying to prove is fucking pointless.
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Post by Nihil Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:47 pm

point who is trying to prove?

Also, I'm fairly sure, Dray, that M theory only posits that we experience 4 dimensions, but live in 11 dimensions, so therefore, the universe is composed of 11 dimensions that occur simultaneously across space-time, not that these dimensions are entirely different unto themselves.

But i don't like M theory or string theory for that matter, so Razz
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Post by Disturbed Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:35 pm

I don't like either, but string theory still has something in it that might just be acceptable, but M theory? That just makes me think there were a bunch of scientists desperate to put something or the other up as an achievement
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Post by Nihil Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:53 pm

thats what a lot of physicists are thinking these days, that we have departed too much and began to throw things out to describe messes that we can't explain.
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Post by JeVaS Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:33 am

Disturbed wrote:but it really does not have much proof. And one of my professors, who is a something physicist by profession, agrees that it is absolute bullshit and mere philosophy.
um ok...ur going to pin somthing down ware ur religion has NO PROOF what so ever
and , if ur going to ask who made that matter (then u would be agreeing with science and not ur religion) , and just say thats ware god comes in ,.....then how did god get there hu....who made god or what or just answer how he got there

also if god loves us so much.... then y does he trap us on this little rock
its like ur dad saying "i love you"then closing the door and then locking it up from the out side...and now were trying to pick the lock
in a way it seems that
"God Hates Us All"
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Post by Disturbed Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:46 am

ur not trapped on earth. Ur free to go out. A more accurate analogy would be that of a dad giving u a house with every possible facility there is and you either staying in and taking advantage of it or deciding to be the rebel and walk out. There's also the options of living as someone whor espects their father or someone who abuses his father's love to the point he kicks u out. I will not attempt to explain god with science for it is not possible as of yet, but he has just as much validity as M theory. What I'm saying that even if he does not exist, there is nothing wrong with following a set of good morals is there?
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:07 pm

no
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Post by Necal Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:17 pm

Disturbed wrote:What I'm saying that even if he does not exist, there is nothing wrong with following a set of good morals is there?

Very true.

Now, I'm assuming you are speaking of christian morals, correct? Those are not the ones you should follow.
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Post by Sin Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:58 pm

u might hate me for this , but i think religion is a big scam. Religion - Page 6 68951
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Post by BgFighter/Ghost Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:05 pm

Every religion has its "things". Thats all.
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Post by Disturbed Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:41 pm

I'm not christian, tho I agree that they also have some good morals too
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Post by Nihil Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:13 pm

One thing I respect from religion is that it has set the standard for morals, the values of every person's life, liberty, and prosperity.
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Post by Disturbed Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:26 pm

yes if ppl learned to follow properly there might be more peace. If u look at religion, none of them actually preaches war
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Post by Nihil Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:57 pm

One of the greatest ironies of the modern world unfortunately.
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Post by Disturbed Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:03 pm

not just the modern world
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Post by Aureus Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:20 pm

It's more of an excuse nowadays rather then a belief xD
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Post by Disturbed Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:22 pm

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Post by JeVaS Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:48 pm

Disturbed wrote:ur not trapped on earth. Ur free to go out. A more accurate analogy would be that of a dad giving u a house with every possible facility there is and you either staying in and taking advantage of it or deciding to be the rebel and walk out. There's also the options of living as someone whor espects their father or someone who abuses his father's love to the point he kicks u out.

1)well in a way , god wants us to be trapped on earth , never in the bible does it talk about the stars or leaveing this planet and going to a different 1 , or making space suits for us to go out in space
(god=dad locking the door........science=the key or the screwdriver)
2)and yes possibles on earth , but not out on other planets
3)so god will give us a chance to "rebel" as 1 of his possibles?......so what is he trying to set us up now , couse if i was yelled at correctly .....if i rebel against god i go to hell
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Post by Aureus Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:50 pm

Well "God" gave us free will so we could make our own decision of that
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Post by Disturbed Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:52 pm

idk abt the bible, but a diff book has specific verses asking people to discover beyond the earth and to study science and nature to better understand god
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Post by JeVaS Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:55 pm

there is no science in god
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Post by Aureus Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:56 pm

No i dont think the bible says that... hell, I went to 8 years of Catholic night school to get confirmed for my parents and I don't remember anything besides like freeing the slaves and all that business... xD Razz
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Post by Disturbed Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:57 pm

u are being absolute there, and in fact being just as close minded as the church of the dark ages, just in the opposite direction. You assume that religion and science are necessary enemies when they can ust as easily be allies. Like I said, I'm not talking abt the Bible, why the f wud I read the bible in the first place except for some random verses?
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Post by Aureus Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:34 am

why did my post get removed i was agreeing... fine ill say sumtin else:
The way the people used to believe in religion was denying science though so our options are to change it, or just forget it and keep advancing till we kill ourselves
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