Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to "wipe Israel off the map."

Talkin'boutFreedom wrote: Even though we gained the ability to simply print money for things, the US
government could not go all willy nilly with it since it would simply hurt America's people. Also I don't think anyone realizes the potential to destroy China by us inflating the US dollar.

Also did that Yuan and Dollar correlation contract expire yet?

Well see dude, the problem is they ARE going willy nilly with it. That is how they are handling the debt, they are simply printing money out like there is no tomorrow. That is why very soon inflation and hyper inflation are going to occur and everything I have been talking about will happen. That is why we need to get our assets AWAY from the US gov NOW before all that happens, because when it does the dollar will be almost worthless.

soran wrote:well the thing about learning the musical arts is that, the music industry is sooo packed with people tring to get out there that theres alot of people who can be rlly rlly good but never ever even noticed

That would not matter in the utopian like society I was referring to. Plus there are many outlets for the arts.

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Dray The Fingerless wrote:That would involve not requiring a amount of income. Also bare in mind the substitution by automats IS a real thing, and it WILL happen this century. There already finished plans for automats that build, i kid you not, houses from the bottom to top. Mass unemployment, no means to support paying for things.

Umm explain to me who exactly they plan to build all this crap for if no one can work? Now in a communistic society they would be perfect. But with an economic system it will just produce fail, not houses.

It is another vicious cycle. Company finds it cheaper to have machines in a sector, so they fire people and build machines, wich increases the amount of unemployment, wich then decreases the amount of demand, wich then makes more of that company, and even other companies, find cheaper methods of industry, thus making more automated, firing more people, wich creates more unemployment, wich decreases demand, and so on so forth, till the point where there is simply too much unemployment to sustain the industry, the economy, and the government, that it falls. You would say, oh what about unemployment and social security number funds? Those use public funds, wich are gained mostly by taxes, wich cannot be paid because everyone is unemployed without money, wich then causes the public funds to go drier at the same time more people will fall onto it, wich then collapses the unemployment funds.

which will add to the chain reaction of the countries debt because the government would try to step in and try to help pay for stuff then the US would just plunge into more debt because we(the people) cant pay it back.

Dray your thing about machines are somewhat usually true but in certain circumstances are dead wrong. For example airplanes, and some old MRI machines and of the likes

Talkin'boutFreedom wrote:Dray your thing about machines are somewhat usually true but in certain circumstances are dead wrong. For example airplanes, and some old MRI machines and of the likes

LOL, let me put it into figures. More than HALF of the work people do nowadays will eventually be replaced by automats. And thats a...positive assessment. Now youre in a iff over 10% of unemployment, imagine 60%.

Hell they even have robots doing surgeries these days...

man there has to be a moment where we force ourselves to go socialists because we're letting these businesses get away with too much sketchy stuff that isn't helping our unemployment rate one bit >.< i was always a fan of socialism personally. but then again im not a big economist

soran wrote:man there has to be a moment where we force ourselves to go socialists because we're letting these businesses get away with too much sketchy stuff that isn't helping our unemployment rate one bit >.< i was always a fan of socialism personally. but then again im not a big economist

What do you think social security is? medicare? medicaid? 401k? a hospital being unable to refuse treatment? food stamps? section 8 housing? Shall i go on? There is socialism in every country, the question always remains how much is good for society and how should it be properly implemented.

if you ask a nurse or a cop if they would stop working their jobs if they didnt need to anymore, they would half the time say no, because people, by initiative, like doing things they love. i would program and make games, even if i didnt have to get money for a living, because that is what i love.

I think without a monetary system we could focus a lot more on research and development as well. The benefits of discovering new things or inventing something new or better in itself would be a huge reward. Perhaps humans will start using "fame" as currency, vying to be remembered throughout the ages by making a large contribution to humanity.