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Post by Dray The Fingerless Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:58 pm

Then change that. And you are still young. You have a lifetime to do something meaningful. So take your time.
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Post by BgFighter/Ghost Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:52 pm

thing944 wrote:Probably adrenaline.

^ You dont know how much adrenaline can do.. Smile
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Post by Aureus Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:17 pm

I'm sorry but that makes 0 sense
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:36 pm

What doesnt make sense?
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Post by Aureus Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:44 pm

OH I GET IT. Read it wrong.
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Post by Dante Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:04 pm

Aureus wrote:OH I GET IT. Read it wrong.

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Post by Nihil Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:36 pm

Dante wrote:dr. dray. i cant help but feel like a dumbass sometimes... im 16 yrs old, dropped outta school wit nothin to show for it, oh yeah, and where do i work... MINIMUM WAGE AT MCDONALDS... any advice?

Finish school, or

If you don't want to, make sure YOU are happy. There are garbage collectors happier than the wealthiest men in the world I assure you, garbage collectors do make decent wages though, so I've heard. Minimum wage sucks, I agree, it sucks to live in a society where you can barely scrape your way by, let alone LIVE a DECENT and HEALTHY life.

http://planetgreen.discovery.com/videos/30-days-minimum-wage.html

http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/try-living-on-minimum-wage.html
How Much Can You Spend?
The answer is $17.60. (if you assumed rent of $300, that would still leave you with only $24.27 a day to spend)

That’s right, if you work eight hours of minimum wage and have a $500 a month rent payment, you can only spend $17.60 before you start going into debt ($25 if you pay only $300 a month in rent). This is why so many people working minimum wage work two or three jobs, because eight hours is simply not enough. (There may be other social programs to help, like food stamps, but I didn’t want to get overly complicated in this discussion)

Eye opening huh? Try living on less than $18 a day for an entire month, I mean really try, and you’ll discover some things you didn’t think were possible.

You still have a chance to finish school, if you don't want to, I suggest a college where you can learn a craft and become proficient in it, maybe something interesting to you, even if its a community college. Above all, make sure what you do satisfies you and makes you happy. You can work at a desk all day and make a lot of money, if that would make you happier, having the money outweighs the boring and hateful job, then GO FOR IT.

I know a loan may seem crippling, but, if you truly dedicate yourself and are willing to work for that happiness, if having a higher income will give you more happiness and leisure than the minimum wage, GO FOR IT! Maybe you could dedicate yourself to fast food working and rise up the ranks in that restaurant to earn more.


Anyone is able to do anything they put themselves to fully.

Sorry to steal your thunder Dray, but I felt pressed to comment here.
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Post by Dante Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:58 pm

well, i do plan on starting my own flooring business, but i cant afford college... but i would love to get into flooring... i know ceramics already

ps. dray, maybe hire some nurses? lol
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:22 pm

NURSES ARE ALWAYS a good investment. Tip o the day, from Dr Dray
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Post by Nihil Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:21 am

Dante wrote:well, i do plan on starting my own flooring business, but i cant afford college... but i would love to get into flooring... i know ceramics already

ps. dray, maybe hire some nurses? lol

Thats a great start already, you have a vision. If you can't afford college, I think the government is trying a program to make college more affordable.
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Post by Dante Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:22 am

i hope so, im trying to go for Business Administration. I want to learn how to properly run a business.

PS. can i be a 'good investment'? :p
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:45 am

maybe. Dnno what you mean by good investment. Oh wait, i do. Yeah well, i dunno much about banking loaning strategies, Nihil is more on that sector than me. But depnds how you present yourself and if what you have is worth to them, or enough to them.
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Post by BaStUn Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:32 pm

If this still works (it's been dead for 20 days), I have a question:

Now it happened that everyone in school is mocking me/ shouting something really funny (only to himeslf) at me. Most of them I haven't ever met. A several people I have talked to about this, say that I'm too shy, that I'm always like "odd" cause I rarely talk to somebody at school, that I'm diffident, and like I'm living in my "own world".
I don't know if that's really true, I don't like talking much with my classmates (geez what am I supposed to tell this idiots -.-") and I am very absent-minded, I sometimes can't hear the teachers when they are talking to me xD. However, I prefer "living in my own world" instead of going around with those jerks, but really, I don't want everyone (even those I don't know -.-") shouting something mockering at me, it kinda gets supressing.
Several years ago everyone used to bully me cause I was a quiet person who likes talking only with those sharing his interest and talking about school with those who didn't. Then the "cool" people of the class (they are cool only for the girls & gays) advised me to be more "bright", more sociable, to confront those who harass me. I couldn't master this though.
Any advise for this problems?
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Post by Aragorn Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:14 pm

If the good Dr. doesn't mind my input, you're an introvert Bastun. This behavior is similar to mine since I'm also an introvert. People are going to make fun of you for that introverted nature because its something they don't understand, I'm gonna take a guess and say these people are extroverts (really out going, loud people. Can sometimes be obnoxious and rambunctious) and if that's the case, getting them off your back isn't going to be too hard. Extroverts strive on attention from everyone around, negative or otherwise. They literally live off of it. They're behavior and how they react are modeled after everyone else around them. Ignoring an extrovert is the easiest way to get them to go away. Once they realize that they'll get no attention from you, they'll seek it somewhere else. All they're doing is trying to get a rise out of you (trolling you, basically) just to get some attention. Don't feed em. Just walk away and don't talk to them. Be confident in who you are enough to not be affected by what they say. Once you have confidence in yourself and you know who you are, what people say about you won't bother you nearly as much, if at all.
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Post by Aleksi U Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:30 pm

BaStUn wrote:If this still works (it's been dead for 20 days), I have a question:

Now it happened that everyone in school is mocking me/ shouting something really funny (only to himeslf) at me. Most of them I haven't ever met. A several people I have talked to about this, say that I'm too shy, that I'm always like "odd" cause I rarely talk to somebody at school, that I'm diffident, and like I'm living in my "own world".
I don't know if that's really true, I don't like talking much with my classmates (geez what am I supposed to tell this idiots -.-") and I am very absent-minded, I sometimes can't hear the teachers when they are talking to me xD. However, I prefer "living in my own world" instead of going around with those jerks, but really, I don't want everyone (even those I don't know -.-") shouting something mockering at me, it kinda gets supressing.
Several years ago everyone used to bully me cause I was a quiet person who likes talking only with those sharing his interest and talking about school with those who didn't. Then the "cool" people of the class (they are cool only for the girls & gays) advised me to be more "bright", more sociable, to confront those who harass me. I couldn't master this though.
Any advise for this problems?

In High School people tend to pick on the kids who seem lonely, separated from others or shy people who seem odd.
You seem like a person who rather listen to teacher and stay alone.

You can't just go and tell them to shut up, it'll get worse; telling adults? They'll prolly say like ''don't do that'' etc but they'll still do it.

I never had that kind of problems really, but i've seen the cruelty of Highschool lol
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Post by BaStUn Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:04 pm

I don't actually listen to teachers; I prefer watching the clouds through the window, I can somehow feel the freedom which fills me for a second, then it all turns to the same boring situation again.
I miss the summer. I miss my friends. The summer gives me freedom and my friends are the only people who can understand me.
I miss the time I usaed to be little and I never thought for school and the headaches it brings, I miss the freedom cause I was allowed to do whatever I want as long as I follow my parent's rules.
The agony has filled me.
Guess that all makes me look lonely.

I am an introvert, indeed, but I'm okay with it. Well, as long as other people are okay with it. But that doesnt concern them. I can be and I can act however I like. That has nothing to do with them. I am being myself. They cannot change me, neither they have to. They are equal to me. Why do they have to think themselves for better than me? What gives them the right to act all noble and pick on other people?

I sometimes can'ty fell asleep easily. Then I spend hours of thinking on questions like that. That fill my head and I feel it like it will explode. Everyone says "ignore!". I cannot. I am a nervous person, thats why I prefer being alone or with two or three people. I can't stand the noise.
Neither the mockering. Everything nerves me- from both good and evil side of the nerves. I am also very sensitive. That all makes some kind of a combination-mess which isn't very good. I'm passing a hard period of my life- pubery, we all go trough it. I'm also having a very important year at school.
Why does everythin crashes on me at this time?
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:10 pm

Ignore the trolls. get good grades. work hard. laugh at them when they are parking cars out in the street later on.

Mockery is their form of self-loathing(like Ara said). You can have many solutions to this, outsmart them in words and wittyness, or ignoring and having a laugh at their attempts to mock you. I agree that it gets annoying, so just tell them, they are getting annoying, and tell them to stop stalking you. If they dont, oh well, walk away from them. Kids will be kids after all

Really no better way to fight them than outsmarting and ignoring them.
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Post by Ðaaaaa Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:53 pm

Either ignore them or laugh with them. Just try to take things less seriously from people. It has helped me a good deal.
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Post by Aureus Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:55 pm

Or dont be weird
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Post by Ðaaaaa Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:58 pm

And ignore people like Cog Very Happy
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Post by Nihil Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:12 am

Aureus wrote:Or dont be weird

Watch the attitude cog, or take it elsewhere, this isn't a thread meant for your snarky remarks.
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Post by Aureus Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:13 am

I didn't say he was. I just meant conform a bit. It never hurts to try to blend a lil. Ofc dont giv ur personality up, but try to mold it to fit in with ur surroundings.
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Post by Red-X Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:33 am

BaStUn wrote:If this still works (it's been dead for 20 days), I have a question:

Now it happened that everyone in school is mocking me/ shouting something really funny (only to himeslf) at me. Most of them I haven't ever met. A several people I have talked to about this, say that I'm too shy, that I'm always like "odd" cause I rarely talk to somebody at school, that I'm diffident, and like I'm living in my "own world".
I don't know if that's really true, I don't like talking much with my classmates (geez what am I supposed to tell this idiots -.-") and I am very absent-minded, I sometimes can't hear the teachers when they are talking to me xD. However, I prefer "living in my own world" instead of going around with those jerks, but really, I don't want everyone (even those I don't know -.-") shouting something mockering at me, it kinda gets supressing.
Several years ago everyone used to bully me cause I was a quiet person who likes talking only with those sharing his interest and talking about school with those who didn't. Then the "cool" people of the class (they are cool only for the girls & gays) advised me to be more "bright", more sociable, to confront those who harass me. I couldn't master this though.
Any advise for this problems?

Aragorn wrote:If the good Dr. doesn't mind my input, you're an introvert Bastun. This behavior is similar to mine since I'm also an introvert. People are going to make fun of you for that introverted nature because its something they don't understand, I'm gonna take a guess and say these people are extroverts (really out going, loud people. Can sometimes be obnoxious and rambunctious) and if that's the case, getting them off your back isn't going to be too hard. Extroverts strive on attention from everyone around, negative or otherwise. They literally live off of it. They're behavior and how they react are modeled after everyone else around them. Ignoring an extrovert is the easiest way to get them to go away. Once they realize that they'll get no attention from you, they'll seek it somewhere else. All they're doing is trying to get a rise out of you (trolling you, basically) just to get some attention. Don't feed em. Just walk away and don't talk to them. Be confident in who you are enough to not be affected by what they say. Once you have confidence in yourself and you know who you are, what people say about you won't bother you nearly as much, if at all.

^ basically. Im also an introvert Razz. But (no offense) in your case it seems severe >_-". I highly suggest you start talking to people that are:

A: Have similar tastes
B: Can have an easy conversation with and also easy to open up too.

^ thats how i came out a bit. Keep close friends, close. You dont need alot of friends btw, i get through life with basically 4 good friends. And what ara said, IGNORE THE ASSHOLES THAT BULLY. Don't talk back, don't start shit. When someone does that to me, i usually stare at them till they shut up. Or, openly ignore them and go somewhere else. Dude it aint hard; unless they get physical. Thats another story >_-".

If you can find a friend, or someone mutual to open up with, ask them for help. Seems to meh, you seriously need someone in real life to talk too >_-". No offense (again), your primary 'go to for help' shouldn't be us all the time
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:46 am

Agree with Red. My office and these forums offer some help, but the more you seek it in the real world, the better for you.
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Post by Aragorn Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:30 am

Aureus wrote:I didn't say he was. I just meant conform a bit. It never hurts to try to blend a lil. Ofc dont giv ur personality up, but try to mold it to fit in with ur surroundings.

You don't understand an introvert at all. Introverts don't blend in at all, it's against their nature. You're asking an introvert to become more extroverted and it doesn't work that way...
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