Abortion? or No Abortion?

i meant personhood by the ability to feel, think, have preferences and such. Also, your "baby" looks more like this



Congratulations, ur a father to a fish?!

XD

but seriously, if that is a baby girl/boy to you, then thats really actually bad, considering you don't believe in evolution,


a person is something that is able to live outside the mother's womb, about the end of the second trimester and belongs to the genus Homo, more specifically, Homo Sapiens.

also, im thinking that there was a miscommunication, when i said live by itself, i mean, without attachment to its mother, physically, as in, you could take it out of the womb and it would be able to live without being the mother, only if placed in fluids and had food and such.

Ah you don't listen, I'm done. You concede logic only when it fits your narrow view.

Ah, aard has said this more than once, but can't argue against this political and sociological bulldozer of PPPOOOOWWWEEERRR!


speaking of narrow...

ever heard of, straight but not narrow?

i'm thinking i've just found hypocrisy again^^

you can criticize me for my "narrow" view, but a say you have on and gays' rights.


and really, if you kill something without emotion, you've killed something that basically wasn't alive, save for scientific reason.

lock this damn topic srsly im sick of seeing it.

again, i point out that if you kill something without emotion, then its not really like killing anything, klling something w/o emotion and feelings.

That's the mentality of a psychopath, and not a harmless one. You're basically saying that if it can't fear death it's not alive, and therefore you have a right to kill it.

and what actual living thing doesn't fear death?

think about it, all animals have an instinct to survive, and all animals can feel and think, on some level, calling me a psychopath doesn't provide anything to your argument and in fact shows how weak your position is.

think about it like this: you meet an a human, that can't think or feel and is still dependent on its mother, for genetic composition and health, about sometime in 2nd trimester they can be taken out and live with artificial support and such, something like that isn't a human, it is a developing embryo, it still looks like a fish, and still looks like a pig.

also, you should go tell that to the other nine people who voted for it.

im with nihil on that its not a baby, but im with aard and ilmare that it will be one. therefore, it should be preserved. you dont fuck with ur raw materials if you want a good quality refined product to come out of it.

Champion wrote:Fuck abortion!

look im not going to read this whole entire forum becouse its a no brainer
its the same thing as killing a baby , its just down right wrong
and to think that the religion Christianity haven't stop this... this... cruelness
but its like champ

Fuck Abortion

only soulless people go through with this and not burn in HELL

For the millionth time lock this topic........pleaase?

its rancor pit and we aren't off topic, its fine

oh and also,

the fetus is part of the woman, its better than infanticide isn't it, thats what people in euorpe and asia would do actually quite recently in our time.

There was a study conducted that Lower class woman who had abortions were more likely to commit crime and, if they had any children, that they too would be less likely to commit a crime.

this is called reproduction rights, if you favor the rights of a fetus that looks a like a fish fetus over that of a woman, you know, sounds kind of sexist, but that is your opinion, i'm just presenting the facts, that abortion is valuable for lower class woman, that a fetus can't think, feel, or act, and that it lives off the woman, so therefore, the woman should do with it what she wants, abortion or not.

Legal till a certain stage, say two monthes (note; this was not done with quite a bit of research in mind, so I went with what seemed like a low estimate), the illegal.

I agree, there may need to be an age limit, but if something traumatic happens in a woman's life, then I think she should have the option.

Infanticide is killing a living child that is out of the womb, thus not with the mother, killing a fetus is different.

There is no obligation, a restriction on reproductive rights if you ask me.

It makes me wonder, does that mean a Man can't divorce a woman?

Single mothers, imagine how hard that is.

I will just throw my 2 cents in...


Research is showing more and more that many of our personality traits (the very essence of who we are) are actually inherited from our parents. Given the unique combination of each humans personality drawn, mixed and matched from over 4000 personality traits, we can see how snuffing out even one life before its born is snuffing out someone unique and an individual.

It is because of this that I believe even an unborn fetus is a life, once the DNA combines and those first cells form. I wont read or reply in this topic further, for fear I will lose my respect for some people because the topic is a very touchy one for me.

I think it is less the question about life, as the fetus cannot think or feel, but more about what the woman needs in her life, and if she is ready to have a child.

I.E mistakes happen, and stuff are only 99% effective.

I am a swimmer of course LOL

also, that is because those crops are the basic lively hood of a farmer, killing those may end up killing him or ruining his business.

Besides, farmers put a lot of work into that stuff, i've seen it.*



*My mom's side of the family is basically all farmers.

im sorry but i just cant grasp the idea of going along with Abortion
its that kind of stuff Hitlers in to i beat

No because money and hard work went into making that building, and besides, it would pose a danger to others and it would also anger the building's proprietor.

its really hard to know your pregnant in the first week, only when your sure and you do tests.it may not seem so, but pregnancy rates arent that high really. just ppl fuck a lot in 3rd world country.