Re: Abortion? or No Abortion?

by **SouLCasT** Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:24 pm

You can have unprotected sex, and not leave her pregnant...It's not that hard...

by **Tanya** Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:26 pm

It still failed lol, I used anti baby pills even that they were not so in here, and my partner used condom but it still happened after only one night. And reason we did it is mostly because of my worst enemies - my female friends who did it like 5 years before me and they were throwing that at me every day. People do "experiments" on college. What is important is to do it when you are ready and to chose your partner wisely, that you can count on him when if it happens, especially if it's first time and you will have that man in memory for the rest of your life.
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by **Aureus** Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:37 pm

SouLCasT wrote:You can have unprotected sex, and not leave her pregnant...It's not that hard...

by **Tanya** Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:51 pm

As I said and I mean it as I am not that stupid to risk it like that when even when protected failed. I really hope SoulCast and Master COG that one day you don't eat your words no matter how big experience you guys have with it.

by **Sinusoidal** Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:01 pm

Master CoG wrote:
SouLCasT wrote:You can have unprotected sex, and not leave her pregnant...It's not that hard...

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by **Disturbed** Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:17 pm

SouLCasT wrote:You can have unprotected sex, and not leave her pregnant...It's not that hard...

exactly, so then if its so easy to avoid then why wud u take abortion?

by **SouLCasT** Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:33 pm

Cuz ppl are too dumb to pull it out? Or maybe get some fucken pills?

Him-Im gonna , Im gonna now!
Her-Pull it out!
Him-Aaaaah...What were u saying?
Her-oshi-

by **Disturbed** Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:46 pm

lol...

by **claudio** Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:51 pm

SouLCasT wrote:Cuz ppl are too dumb to pull it out? Or maybe get some fucken pills?

Him-Im gonna , Im gonna now!
Her-Pull it out!
Him-Aaaaah...What were u saying?
Her-oshi-

I don't mean to get all nsfw here but I think we're already in that territory. What about pre-cum? I don't think pulling out is a safe option here

by **Disturbed** Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:03 pm

don't go in in the first place, till u knw what ur doing.

by **Dray The Fingerless** Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:43 pm

Master CoG wrote:If ur against abortion u might as well be a vegetarian.

If your not, your a hypocrite

I guess you have a problem in diferentiating species?

And, hypocrite? No sir, your the hypocrite, because you are too young to know what a human life REALLY values. You dont HAVE that ideal, that mind set. Its easy to kill a human being when its all looking like a video game to you. Of course, your also a man, so youll eventually NEVER learn that value.

And Nihil, when i wanna know what YOUR MOM thinks, ill ask her. Didnt ask what YOUR MOM thinks, because im 100% sure if i asked YOUR MOM if she would abort Mr. Nihil, she would say no, else she really has no mother love for you.

by Nihil Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:15 pm

SouLCasT wrote:My point was, you WOULDN'T EXIST..therefor, the fetus, which someday can become a fullgrown human being, will not exist. Therefor you deny a life. It's as simple as that.

I'ma go with what Claudio said, you masturbate, you destroy life...

I bet you feel bad now Soul XD

Dray The Fingerless wrote:
Master CoG wrote:If ur against abortion u might as well be a vegetarian.

If your not, your a hypocrite

I guess you have a problem in diferentiating species?

And, hypocrite? No sir, your the hypocrite, because you are too young to know what a human life REALLY values. You dont HAVE that ideal, that mind set. Its easy to kill a human being when its all looking like a video game to you. Of course, your also a man, so youll eventually NEVER learn that value.

And Nihil, when i wanna know what YOUR MOM thinks, ill ask her. Didnt ask what YOUR MOM thinks, because im 100% sure if i asked YOUR MOM if she would abort Mr. Nihil, she would say no, else she really has no mother love for you.

Well, Dray, you said this:

Dray The Fingerless wrote:And another thing Nihil, i know your too young to grasp what ill say, and you probably never will know this, living in the disfunctional society you live, but if you do get to that age and mental state, once you find out what its like to create a child, a potential human being, and if your normal, youll find abortion despicable. I guarantee you.

And yet my mom supports the right to abortion, like I said before, you seem more interested in punishing women, and not the men, who made the mistake. You say "Women can't have an abortion because they are dumb enough to go unprotected" You leave the MAN out of it.

Again Dray, think about killing a zombie, that is like killing a fetus. Think about sex with protection, that is killing the possibility of life, so, either way, you contradict yourself in the possibility section by saying that they should use protection, which, however, ends the chances of life in the long term.

The point of calling it a life is irrelevant, you can't call a fetus a human because a human thinks, feels, and has emotions and memories, a fetus doesn't have any of those. If My mom aborted me, I wouldn't know, feel, or anything like that.

It may be right for one women but not right for another.

Seriously guys, do you really think that women will go and get an abortion every time they are pregnant? Thats like asking whether you really want to go get cut open in surgery. You can't cruelly punish a thinking, feeling individual because they made one mistake. Labour is a hard process that obviously hurts, and if you kill the fetus, you don't destroy anything than a shell, something that is alive, but has no memories, feelings, or thoughts.

BTW Dray, if you can't use arguments against what someone said, then don't go straight to attacking the person.

by **Dray The Fingerless** Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:30 pm

I dont speak of the men, because

A: I cant really punish them.

and B: Most run with their tail between their legs.

I dont seek punishment of women Nihil, it is diferent killing sperm, because sperms and ovocits are nothing but cells that are created endlessly by your body, wich btw, even if you dont masturbate, your sperm dies off in your balls, as well as all the sperm that dies when they enter a vagina and DONT create a fetus, because you know Nihil, sperms are expendable. A fetus is a single unique living cell/cells. When it is created, you might as well say God just created a person. its done. That fetus will grow, and create a new unique human being. That potential human being has the same rights to life as the mom who bears him. Volunteer pregnancy means she should have the baby. Rape, that is, unvolunteer creation of that human, is not to bear on the mother, who is equally a human being, with rights and duties. She did not want this, it was imposed in her, unlike the drunk/teenager/ dumb bitch who said, hey what the heck, ill abort it after.

by **SouLCasT** Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:01 pm

Cum is not a wannabehuman yet, it needs a 'mate', the ovaries...Tho a fetus is already created..there's a difference...

Oh and pre-cum is actually a sort of disease..
And idk, but maybe it can be treated...

by Nihil Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:04 pm

Sperm cells can be considered unique Dray, half are x and half are y. Also, mutations during meiosis is inevitable, not to mention that heterozygous alleles, they are unique too.

A person, then, by your definition could be a brain-dead individual, with no hope of being brought back, but, we kill them, most of the time, I believe. They are nominally human, but have no thoughts, feelings, or memories or, really, anything attributed to a human, besides a body and a mind.

Dray, I could argue back too, that the potential human, in the case of rape, shouldn't be punished for the mistakes of the father, just as a woman, except, a women can feel, think, and have memories and such, a fetus doesn't, so, do you agree with me?

Finally, I need to add, Women don't go around and think, heck I can go get it aborted, no one wants to get themselves cut open in surgery? Comon' throw that line away, its completely useless and doesn't work, as I just showed.

by **claudio** Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:08 pm

SouLCasT wrote:

Oh and pre-cum is actually a sort of disease..
And idk, but maybe it can be treated...

what

by **Aureus** Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:31 pm

Dray The Fingerless wrote:
Master CoG wrote:If ur against abortion u might as well be a vegetarian.

If your not, your a hypocrite

I guess you have a problem in diferentiating species?

And, hypocrite? No sir, your the hypocrite, because you are too young to know what a human life REALLY values. You dont HAVE that ideal, that mind set. Its easy to kill a human being when its all looking like a video game to you. Of course, your also a man, so youll eventually NEVER learn that value.

And Nihil, when i wanna know what YOUR MOM thinks, ill ask her. Didnt ask what YOUR MOM thinks, because im 100% sure if i asked YOUR MOM if she would abort Mr. Nihil, she would say no, else she really has no mother love for you.

My mom is pro-choice and ofc if u ask a mother such as nihil's she'd say she would never abort him. But that's also because she chose to have a kid as well as the ability to maintain him

by **SouLCasT** Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:55 pm

Umm, yea, pre-cum means smth just isn't right...

I think..I don't suffer from it, so I never really asked but it just doesn't seem normal..

by **claudio** Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:57 pm

SouLCasT wrote:Umm, yea, pre-cum means smth just isn't right...

I think..I don't suffer from it, so I never really asked but it just doesn't seem normal..

We're off topic here but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-ejaculate

It has 18+ images

by **SouLCasT** Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:02 pm

"The presence of sperm in the fluid appears to be rare. Pre-ejaculate is believed to function as a lubricant and an acid neutralizer. The amount of pre-ejaculate emitted varies widely between individual men."

So it usually can't get a woman pregnant...
And I thought u we're talking about premature, not this..

by Nihil Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:08 pm

I can't believe you two are actually having this conversation... lol

and Soul, lol

SouLCasT wrote:Umm, yea, pre-cum means smth just isn't right...

I think..I don't suffer from it, so I never really asked but it just doesn't seem normal..

by **claudio** Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:09 pm

SouLCasT wrote:"The presence of sperm in the fluid appears to be rare. Pre-ejaculate is believed to function as a lubricant and an acid neutralizer. The amount of pre-ejaculate emitted varies widely between individual men."

So it usually can't get a woman pregnant...
And I thought u we're talking about premature, not this..

It's rare but it's not impossible and I'm talking about pre-ejaculate not premature ejaculation...or I don't know what you mean

Nihil wrote:I can't believe you two are actually having this conversation... lol

and Soul, lol

Yeah lets get on topic...if you need some sexual education use google

by Nihil Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:12 pm

claudio wrote:

Yeah lets get on topic...if you need some sexual education use google

*images

Lulz^^

*ok but ya, we don't want to or need to know about ur sexual practices >.< leave that for your room

by **SouLCasT** Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:32 pm

Umm, ok we'll end this, but when I said "I dont suffer from it blabla", I thought he was meaning premature ejaculation, not that...get it?

by **Dray The Fingerless** Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:40 pm

Nihil wrote:Sperm cells can be considered unique Dray, half are x and half are y. Also, mutations during meiosis is inevitable, not to mention that heterozygous alleles, they are unique too.

A person, then, by your definition could be a brain-dead individual, with no hope of being brought back, but, we kill them, most of the time, I believe. They are nominally human, but have no thoughts, feelings, or memories or, really, anything attributed to a human, besides a body and a mind.

Dray, I could argue back too, that the potential human, in the case of rape, shouldn't be punished for the mistakes of the father, just as a woman, except, a women can feel, think, and have memories and such, a fetus doesn't, so, do you agree with me?

Finally, I need to add, Women don't go around and think, heck I can go get it aborted, no one wants to get themselves cut open in surgery? Comon' throw that line away, its completely useless and doesn't work, as I just showed.

I am not in the path to find guilt, im in the path to find innocent, while the man is the guilty in rape, and its his fualt of the baby, you have to have in account the other PRE existing human he hurt, the mother, wich is what i consider the reason for abortion. In case of plain out stupid sex, both parents were dumb and chose it, and the only one who will suffer for it is the potential baby coming from it.

And, lol Soul, you need to search what pre cum is....

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