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Post by soran Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:22 pm

im not trying to defend communism, im jus saying that without the negative human factors, communism would appear to be Utopian.
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Post by Ptolemy Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:49 am

soran wrote:
Ptolemy wrote:I guess you will have to show me where the people in the soviet union ever got to vote on anything. and the time of prosperity, after the redistribution of wealth, and the slaughter of the academics, and the slaughter of the craftsmen, and the slaughter of anyone that owned a business the redistribution of land from the farmers giving it to people to work that didn't know how to grow anything...

Then the slaughter of anyone that didn't like living under communism.

Sounds like utopia to me...

your confusing it too much with Marx communism >.<

He was talking about how much better the USSR was than the US.
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Post by soran Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:51 am

i wasnt o.O if you say the USSR had real communism then you need to get out of this discussion now xD
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Post by Ptolemy Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:28 am

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soran wrote:
Ptolemy wrote:I guess you will have to show me where the people in the soviet union ever got to vote on anything. and the time of prosperity, after the redistribution of wealth, and the slaughter of the academics, and the slaughter of the craftsmen, and the slaughter of anyone that owned a business the redistribution of land from the farmers giving it to people to work that didn't know how to grow anything...

Then the slaughter of anyone that didn't like living under communism.

Sounds like utopia to me...

your confusing it too much with Marx communism >.<

He was talking about how much better the USSR was than the US.
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Post by soran Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:51 pm

congratulations? i wasnt even talking about the USSR.
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:09 am

well then that was not for you was it...

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Post by Atlas Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:35 pm

*Facepalm* Ptol you must give me a history lesson, cause LAST TIME I CHECKED THE USSR NEVER GOT TO COMMUNISM!


~Im out of this convo.
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:31 pm

well that would be useless if you are out of the conversation. why would i waste my time?

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Post by Atlas Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:18 pm

Ur right O.O

Anyway thats it im rly bored Rolling Eyes
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Post by soran Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:08 pm

lol never got into it?! bro, the USSR was communism. stalin and the next 2 guys ruled and owned everyone like they were their pets! yes, a lil over exaggerated BUT basically, its true. and no, im nt jus sayin that cuz i live in america >.>
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:48 am

what he means soran is that they did not practice communism as it was written, only advocating measures of it and preaching about it. The fact is, communism has never existed in the real world. Because its impossible.
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Post by soran Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:21 am

because its a Utopian idea, and in this time of this century atleast, it is impossible.
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Post by Aardvark Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:45 am

No Soran it's impossible at all. Human nature is to do as little as possible for the biggest reward. Literally being provided for while you do nothing is the ultimate temptation for any human and it's basically impossible to resist.
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