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Post by Ptolemy Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:20 pm

easily, all the rich tards that will pay to play that kind of game. look at WOW and that following.
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Post by Aardvark Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:21 pm

Yeah, but the thing is, you have subscription you'll probably net around 20-30% of all gamers. You get rid of that subscription and you'll net around 90-98% of all gamers.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:44 pm

would love for EA not to be greedy but....its EA. I mean the only thing more greedy than EA out there is Activision-...thank god THEY didnt make this game.
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Post by Aardvark Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:07 pm

It's not greed, it's bad business. Players have to pay $50 for the game and $15 each month to play it, that's $230 a year per player and you get about a fifth of the market, then about 1 expansion a year for another $30 makes the additional years $210. Now get rid of subscriptions and take the number of players times five, each player is only paying $50 a year for the first year and $30 each year after for expansions, but because it's five times the people it works out to $250 the first year and $150 for each next year, it's more in the start up and less over time, but you establish a better repore with your buyers who will in turn favor your company. People favor your company, more developers will work with you. More developers means better games and more business. At minimum they could reduce the cost to $5 per month which won't net you as many players, probably only triple rather than quintuple your sales but it still works out to $330 for the first year and $270 for each year after that. Less developer opportunity, but at least it's a quantifiable number.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:19 pm

and justifies the servers maintenance a bit more. wow is about that ,15 dollars a month, wich is stupid considering a net pool of 12 million people doesnt need that much. server maintenance per number of players increasing ratio is a logarithmic rise. Its not proportional, so themore players there are, the fewer the subscriptions fee should be. However if SWTOR makes a in game shop system, tehy will get rich, hell ill even buy somethings in it if i see sth sweet and nice.

Another thing Aard, there are a bit of problems with you calling it bad business. Its not bad business, because server maintenance on MMO levels IS A EXPENSIVE ENDEAVOUR. If it was bad business, Blizzard wouldnt be buying their 14th YACHT this year from all the fucking fortune. Plus yo need to keep a team of devs and hardware techs to maintain servers, fix games, install new content as the game progresses, and support customers. Also, saying that you will quintuple sales if you made the game free is a really far fetched number. Sure you maybe right, more right in this case cause its Star Wars, but that is a very extreme number, and has no groundings of estimation. I agree it would increase, probably double the number of players, but beyond that its pure speculation.
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Post by Aardvark Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:23 pm

It's Star Wars, a FREE MMO of Star Wars, even people who have only seen the movies once will get it because it's Star Wars. And true not "bad" business, just "inefficient" given what they could rake in by thinking a bit more.
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Post by soran Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:03 am

idk but they would make alot more money on a in-game store then a subscription fee id think so. but suck cuz i was hyped fro this game >.< besides, dont they get enough money from people buying the game??
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Post by Red-X Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:09 am

If they put out prepaid cards, like runescape/maplestory/etc, that would bring in even more money
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Post by Aardvark Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:20 am

Yeah In-game shops are pretty effective revenue builders.
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Post by Thing Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:04 am

Cracked servers.


/win.
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Post by Aureus Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:14 pm

thing944 wrote:Cracked servers.


/win.
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Post by Red-X Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:53 pm

UPDATE

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Post by Thing Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:15 am

I remember reading that comic in the Omnibus graphic novel.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:25 am

Still hope there is a twist referring to the Emperor...otherwise its silly.
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Post by Red-X Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:29 am

im pretty sure there is, since theres so much secrecy
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Post by Hrothgar Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:52 pm

Mayby we work member list who been played in this game Razz? Noene can stop me : i must have account in that game Very Happy

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Post by Aureus Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:45 am

The overcartoon makes it look like a crappy game
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Post by Kurupt Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:52 am

wow looks like complete shit
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Post by Aardvark Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:22 am

Graphics need an update, those levels are 2008 level.
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Post by Thing Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:34 am

They don't want it to be too demanding, since they want as much people to play as they can.


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Post by Aardvark Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:38 am

Mass Effect 1 had better graphics. And we KNOW this is going to be pay-to-play so they obviously aren't concerned about making their consumers pay through the nose.
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Post by Thing Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:40 am

Eh, the game's not done yet, so...


Also, I don't know what you guys are talking about, it looks fine to me.

Did you watch it in HD Razz?
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Post by Aardvark Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:48 am

Yes, it looks like shit, compared to any game I have made in 2010. High Def doesn't improve the graphics it just makes the flaws more glaring.
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Post by LoneStar Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:30 am

i'd try out swotor because of kotor since i have always been a fan of Kotors crafting and skilling system (theres heck to do and customize gawd, the lightsaber hilts looks sexy!) but other than that, i might put my money out on something like rift or Aion
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