Re: Where is the line drawn for making fun of religion?

by Nihil Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:50 am

don't be closed sess, be open, we can't lighten rules unless you are open to change and ideas.

by **Aardvark** Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:01 am

The reason rules can't be opened is that people are STILL posting things in very bad taste.

by **Disturbed** Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:20 am

they are already extremely light. That sig was a very very big offense, its the first post by anyone that has actually been blatant enough to actually offend me. Other posts simply go against the rules and I infract, but I am not deeply insulted or anything. That..all I can say was that it was filthy.

I could have done it privately if it was just about me. That was really bad taste and it would help once in a while for people to be reminded what the limits are. I don't even find comedy that funny anyways, since all they can do is say indecent jokes and make fun of various groups. That's kinda lame, maybe a few cheap laughs but that's it. There is such thing as comedy that was actually funny without talking abt ppl's genitalia.

by Deadly Assassin Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:52 am

Disturbed wrote:[color=darkred]they are already extremely light. That sig was a very very big offense, its the first post by anyone that has actually been blatant enough to actually offend me. Other posts simply go against the rules and I infract, but I am not deeply insulted or anything. That..all I can say was that it was filthy. ]

you honestly have no clue what the point of the image was it was showing how South park showed muhammad once before all this no showing muhammad crap started, and they did it without getting threats, so explain to me ard or dist how it can possibly be offensive , please explain it it does not bash on the religion at all as you stated all it does is show him depicted by south park
the reason it looks like a bear is cause thats what the death threats were over South park depicting muhammad in a bear costume

the image is in spoiler you dont have to look at it
AKA the image that started all this crap

Spoiler:

by **Disturbed** Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:14 am

ok so ur saying that the 2nd picture is not Mohammed (pbuh)? Because it clearly shows him now, ppl and censored and a bear. Looks a lot like a pedobear type reference to me.

by **Aardvark** Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:27 am

I have to agree with Dist here. It seems like a deliberate Pedobear reference of a religious figure.

by **Disturbed** Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:05 am

I don't watch southpark. If it's in his sig then everyone including myself is sort of being forced to see it too. We're not overthinking that it's the first thought that came into my head.

Applying your logic, there's no need to fuel the negative emotion by needlessly putting that on a forum where there is a rather strict anti racism / stereotype rules in place . Remember CoG was demoted about 3-4 ranks for using the n word. You think it's funny? We're not forcing you to stop watching south park, but we clearly do not share your sense of humor

by Nihil Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:26 am

Ya, so do we bash him for his sense of humor? no. Either way, buddha and jesus were depicted as things akin to pedophiliacs, so why is Muhammad above the law? It wasn't meant in any way as harmful, just that hes pointing out that its ridiculous that they had to censor him.

by **Disturbed** Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:57 pm

no I perhaps overeacted by getting pissed off at him, for that I apologize, but no I don't believe in making fun of any of those.

The punishment/ infraction is justified, my angry reaction is not, perhaps, but I am human, I can slip up too sometimes

by Nihil Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:17 pm

I mean, i could really understand if it had been like, an intentional insult at religion, not for comedy, I think that we may need to all step back at times, but maybe the way it was presented, Sess's picture, I think that it is a bit extreme, but, its fair, being that it is a political statement, I think, because they censored it to make fun of extremism (right?), I think that if they made that jest with seriousness, in a mocking tone, rather than a comedic tone, then you have a right to be angry, but I think that they did it for the sake of comedy.

by **Disturbed** Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:26 pm

And the difference is? Some of the worst deeds have been done with the best intentions. That's not horrible, but it still looks like a pedobear insult and if that is the case, that is an intentional and direct mockery of the religion by south park. It was basically an intentional insult for the sake of comedy. That's not a good enough reason to warrant degrading the religion.

Like I said, I laugh at the people who watch South Park then get pissed because it says something wrong, because they are kinda begging to be insulted, but for ppl who obviously dislike such distasteful humor (Kanye West and fishes, srsly?) and do not watch it then it's wrong to shove it up such ppl's throats. Trust me if you put up a billboard sign that had that picture on it, there would be serious repercussions for that, involving a few companies getting sued and those companies would probably lose any legal battle they tried to do, unless the judges were biased or smth.

by Nihil Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:33 pm

well, everyone should know that Mohammed wasn't a pedophile, thats ludicrous, its the idea that they are playing on, the "What If?"

also people don't put stuff up on billboards to get others to laugh, it would obviously be to degrade the religion.

by **Dray The Fingerless** Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:38 pm

i didnt delete anything in here, why you screaming at me?

by **Disturbed** Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:39 pm

oh my bad, hey it wasn't caps so i wasn't screaming just telling. All good homie

by **Beaner** Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:02 am

that looks nothing like a pedobear

by **Disturbed** Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:34 am

are u srs? A dark bear, with 'censored' on the back, like I said, the first thing I thought was pedo bear so it;s definitely resembling and I doubt its an accident.

by **SouLCasT** Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:00 pm

When will you stop debating other people's believes I wonder?

U care what they believe, why?

by **Aardvark** Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:05 pm

Although I suspect we're talking about two different people I would pose the same question to Nihil.

by **SouLCasT** Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:50 pm

Oh ye and Nihil, you almost reached 3k posts full of shit, so will you kindly stfu and stop debating things that you either: 1.Do not understand
2.You think is interesting but it's not
or 3.Not so many care

by **Beaner** Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:18 pm

Theres 5 pages on here.. it would seem that someone does care

by **Disturbed** Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:25 pm

yes I do care abt this particular subject since it is important. However, I knw nihil is never going to agree with me just for the sake of dragging this on Razz

by **Aragorn** Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:48 pm

^ Hence why my dad and I rarely venture in here.

by **Aardvark** Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:59 pm

Ah I enjoy arguing so long as it doesn't degrade into a senseless loop.

by **SouLCasT** Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:25 pm

Tbh, religion is the most stupid topic.
Just as an example, telling me for instance that God doesnt exist, or whatever other story, won't make me change my religion, so why bother asking oppinions if everyone will state his and not give up on it?
That's why I find this so retarded.
So maybe if you find it in ure brain, end this nonsense once and for all...plz?

by **Disturbed** Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:41 pm

we are not discussing which one is right, that is something I refrain from because, like you said, noone is abt to give up their beliefs here, and I don't care how many ppl jump on me trying to convince me atheism is the way......I'm not gonna lose it right there.

Over here, we are discussing how much tolerance should be shown, how far can you go in insulting the other person's religion, and so forth

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