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Post by Dray The Fingerless Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:15 am

TFU is not epic. It is like a fan fiction.
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Post by Disturbed Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:25 am

the force usage not storyline..
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Post by soran Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:20 am

the storyline is fan fiction. the game and action and powers and all that is epic
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Post by Aardvark Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:44 am

At the same time, it's completely impractical for something like Multi-player. Either the players would be like the bosses and have 100% defense against all your Force powers, or like your character who is vulnerable to a few(Like saber throw and Repulse( which would be spammed no end.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:54 am

soran wrote:the storyline is fan fiction. the game and action and powers and all that is epic

THEY ARE still very much like fan fiction. Very comparable to what we write in our stories. We completely make ourselves geniuses and call upon the Force as we please, when we please, the way we want.
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Post by Disturbed Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:11 am

not rly. TFU I played was pretty decent and had to learn powers gradually not just start off full beam...which is how most games are. What I mean is that it would be practical and fun in the sense that each character would be effected by everything at the right moments. Like even in jkja a pull does not work everytime (if only choke were the same) but at moments when a weakness is there. So yeha kinda like boss fights.
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Post by Aardvark Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:01 am

No Dray's right it's a lot like fan fiction. The reason is simple, they show him successfully taking down three full Jedi Masters, Darth Vader, & Darth Sidious while still an apprentice.
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Post by Disturbed Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:25 am

that counts as story line. I'm talking abt pure combat, for all intent and purposes, darth vader is just a bot with certain powers alotted and a vader skin. The story, was bs...esp the beat vader part, I was like, srsly wtf? But the force usage/ combat style was good.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:35 am

I criticize the force usage as well. It was just a bunch of fan programmers with too much mind into star wars. In fact, the whole team who made that game is all a big bunch of nerd fans of Star Wars. You can go look it up
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Post by Aardvark Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:39 am

I like the game well enough, but it's hack and slash combat, and not at all like it should be. Of all the combat systems, the Episode 3 game is closest to how it would be. It's a bit under powered and linear, but in terms of lightsaber fighting and proper Force usage, it's the closest to being accurate.
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Post by Disturbed Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:48 am

oh that game was good. That actually made it feel like how a jedi should feel....but matches with opponents would last forever...
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Post by Aardvark Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:53 am

As they should. Duels in the movies lasted far longer then any other kind of battle. I found the duels interesting, they made you stop thinking in the terms of "Ohh, what combo should I pull this time?" and brought you back to "Oh shit, block block block!" I want to see a fusion of TFU and Epi 3. Take some of the better plot elements in TFU like the character interaction, tone down the powers to still be enough to overpower non-FS on an individual note, then incorporate the better saber physics and platforming of the Epi 3 game.
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Post by Thing Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:43 am

It's sorta why they call it the force unleashed. And again, the force is like that in the game.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:25 am

Aardvark wrote:As they should. Duels in the movies lasted far longer then any other kind of battle. I found the duels interesting, they made you stop thinking in the terms of "Ohh, what combo should I pull this time?" and brought you back to "Oh shit, block block block!" I want to see a fusion of TFU and Epi 3. Take some of the better plot elements in TFU like the character interaction, tone down the powers to still be enough to overpower non-FS on an individual note, then incorporate the better saber physics and platforming of the Epi 3 game.

OH YOU MEAN....Jka?
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:31 pm

You will not have that opinion about the Force in TFU game, try beating it on hardest settings and you will not have feeling of how the Force is unrealistic and overpowered in game comparing with movies, and how Marek isn't that powerful against those jedi he fought.

after all in Force everything is possible - Kreia

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Post by Aardvark Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:28 pm

Yeah Dray, a JK4 would probably kick the asses of both as long as they updated it.

And I have Cllyx, it's still over-powered. I can charge a Force Push and send a dozen enemies flying through the air to their doom. There are no examples of this is any other SW area.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:31 pm

Well Yoda stops hundreds of droids (and they are metal so more heavier then humans) on battle on Coruscant with force push(lift) when they want to kidnap palpatine, and also makes two big ships crash in each other which is more extreme then Marek's charging his force push for 10 people, and on hardest settings if you stay long enough in one place with enemies you die if you take 2 attacks, his force push is powerful on short range and it really depends of player skill, not from the character you play, and also blew enemies away usually survive if they hit in floor or wall. Playing on harder settings for sure makes hard to use extreme powers in TFU cos such power can be game over then reloading. And it almost doesnt effect jedi enemies in game cos you almost don't have time to use it, and if you do you barely see the damage you made. Palpatine in episode 3 duels Yoda, throwing at him those big seats like joke, if he can lift those 3 at once I bet he can push away 10 humans like joke too, but Marek has to charge the power. Vader became half robot, yet still strong in force to force choke others with his robotic arm and to choke them when they are miles away just looking them at screen. Master Fisto uses the Force in water to move dozens of projectiles that were towards him and at same time with same hand he moves subs so projectiles can destroy them, in water, its harder then normal in air, Yoda feels disturbance in the Force across the galaxy, Kreia kills 3 Jedi Masters on Dantooine with one move, Visass fights blind and feels as well disturbance in the Force across the galaxy, Luminara and her apprentice stoped the cave colapsing on them, Overpowered and extreme Force was seen before and will be seen again, game, movie or cartoon, TFU is not the first or the last that shows it, there are examples you missed.

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Post by Ptolemy Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:10 pm

probly not missed.
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Post by Disturbed Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:41 pm

indeed that is true. Now if he sent 10 jedi flying away....that would be different. But stormies even in jka I jjust get behind them and do a push to send 4-5 off the ledge, or lightning.

jka is a good game, but nowhere near ep 3...ep 3 u actually had something called a real block, some realistic swipes for higher lower and mid, force powers that were all decent and each char had unique abilities. Not just gk, poke and fan to win in 2 mins. A 5 minute duel in jkja is extremely tedious but in ep3 it keep you on your toes the whole time.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:13 pm

oh boy I forgot Bastila and her battle meditation

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Post by Sqrl Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:23 pm

well for one thing TFU was supposed to be mainly a re-imagining of the usual force powers. (hence the title Unleashed)

As for JKA there is a mod called Movie Battles (which im sure you've heard of) which re-enacts certain maps and battles from the movies.

As for the main topic of this thread: i dfa all the time (not constantly) but dfas imo are useful for catching your opponent off-guard and killing them instantly in some cases. to me its not about which attacks are politically correct. Its how you use them. Katas, Twirls, DFAs; they are all part of the same game JKA.


PS i'll be accepting my Emmy Award anytime from now Very Happy jk
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Post by Aardvark Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:13 pm

I did charge a Force Push and sent 4 of those Senate guards flying to their death....
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:22 pm

Yoda killed 2 those guards without charging force or letting them fall from 100 meters, in one second
Was that on high platform before you fight Vader?

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Post by Aardvark Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:31 pm

Yoda was the Grand Master of the Jedi with the highest grasp of the Force of any Jedi in existence, and even he doesn't get close to what you do with Galen. Yoda used the Force to tip small troop carriers into each other. Galen pulled a Star Destroyer from orbit.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:48 pm

Marek had to charge the Force to push those, and took a lot more time to pull star destroyer then Yoda did with troop carriers in like 3 sec. Yoda could pull star destroyer too 'size is not everything" he spoke to Luke about ship and planet I think, Palaptine laughed at Yoda and threw at him those heave seats like toys without charging force, its harder then blowing away the guards.

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