DFA's: Lame or Game?

Explain your thoughts on the use of DFA's in the game.

Legal move. Like any other move, you need to know when and how to use it.

game, and agree with dray. the setup, execution and timing have to be perfect, you cant do it out of nowhere. You must place your opponent first, then get him to spring a trap and walk towards you for a move then ydfa or something on those lines.

xzavier wrote:game, and agree with dray. the setup, execution and timing have to be perfect, you cant do it out of nowhere. You must place your opponent first, then get him to spring a trap and walk towards you for a move then ydfa or something on those lines.

Xzav knows of my use of DFAs all too well.

Yes game and exactly as Dray said it.

some of my best LULZ kills have come from DFAs or Katas when we are just screwing around...

Game and Lame...

Situational

Lame. I don't see how a dfa could be game at all. It's a cheap move that is done when you're in a pinch and can't fight your way out. Even if it's chained it's still stupid because you have to resort to cheap maneuvers to win and in my view, I lose respect for you as a fighter when used. I don't really care if I get killed via dfa. My pride isn't hurt or anything like that so it's not like it's a "OOOOOOOOOOO YOU GOT DFA'D" thing.

DFA - Lame. No DFA - game.

I didn't say maneuvering is cheap what I was saying was DFA's are cheap maneuvers... When I get low on HP I do nothing different than if I'm at 100/100. I don't fan spam or start jumping a lot. I do the exact same tactics as normal. Please stop pretending you know my style

I disagree. DFA takes timing but pokes take more timing to hit effectively.

If done properly, they don't leave you open. So for me, yeah 2 seconds because I am not the best at poke.

i agree with the people that say its fine if used properly... i know when i was JP under Ptol, he would always start a duel with a red dfa... just to get me used to the fact that it could come at any time and i gotta move out of the way of it... i still can't normally hit someone while they are open after a dfa... but they don't hit me much... and sometimes i will use a yellow dfa in a duel... but its usually an accident... but ydfa has scored me a few wins

ive beaten people exclusively using a yellow dfa. No really, i have, 100/sth. And it wasnt a noob to the game, he could do red combos.

Or, you learn to react to a ydfa, before i even think about using a ydfa, i check there reaction time to a few other moves, if its faster than i like, i dont cydfa, and its not hard to consistantly beat somebody with a ydfa i just sometimes am not as patiant and just attack em with yellow, other times i get bored and use ydfa's efficiently. Also a ydfa does make ppl rq alot.

I feel the same way about DFA's as I do katas. Cheap.
HOWEVER, very useful and doesn't make you as vulnerable as a kata does. So like Ptolemy said, situational, but in general, LAME.

Lame. A DFA is either useless because of the huge advertisement like with a Red DFA, or unbalanced like with Yellow DFA. But if you use Yellow DFA during a serious duel, then I lose any respect for your fighting style. Let me explain why in steps why Yellow DFA is unbalanced:

1. Speed. There's only about a quarter second of time for you to see a Yellow DFA and act if you are within range, and it's damage is much too high for such a short warning window.

2. Damage. A Yellow DFA can actually be stronger then a Red DFA depending on how long it's in contact with the person. A graze from a Yellow DFA can do 100+, and if the person isn't aware of the move by the time the first graze hits, then it's a 1 hit KO. To give you an example, I tested a Yellow DFA on a Desann NPC(400 hp) and I 1 hit KO'd it on every single default damage.

3. Blocking. Despite what some believe, a Yellow DFA has a high parry. If the person fighting a Yellow DFA wasn't already starting a Poke or a point blank Overhead, then they won't be able to capitalize when the person is doing the Yellow DFA and will only have a quarter of a second to try and hit when they come down. A Red DFA, has no blocking unless you're in front of it.

It doesn't have enough weakness for it's damage. One second of full contact with a Yellow DFA kills you, considering the high parry and low warning time(and don't give me that warning BS, I've tested it, a Yellow DFA starts inflicting dmg 1/4 of a second after the buttons are pressed), it is extremely unbalanced. The Staff Glitch is a more balanced move.

Those grazes are random though, that DFA will always do at least 100 on a graze. And what about those people who fan, or are aggressive? A Yellow DFA can come off a fan and if you're engaging that fan then you can't avoid it. There's a hugely unbalanced factor to the DFA, no other move with that much hit potential can be done so quickly. It's speed rivals the Blue Lunge, and that Lunge does barely 40.

Can you really sit there and say that move is balanced?