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Post by Viedzmin Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:37 pm

What do u think about 'russian spy' catched id USA? As for me i think it is just a bad joke from those who want to interrupt rise of american-russian political relations.


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Post by Sqrl Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:38 pm

same. still some ppl dont realize that the cold war has been over for over 20+ years. imo
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Post by Viedzmin Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:48 pm

smhg with my connection... i can see only my message
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:12 pm

will have to see what the evidence shows...

If you think spying on EITHER side stopped with the end of the cold war you are naive.
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Post by Sqrl Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:30 pm

not naive, and i dont think they stopped. They never did i just said that some ppl dont realize that its been over. Those people who think that the cold war is still alive and kicking should just Let It Go.
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Post by Viedzmin Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:53 pm

they were catched right after Medvedev's visit to USA. there is something wrong in it. I think
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:09 pm

usually such things take years to gather the evidence to even build the case.

could be these folks are old timers that refused to come home but...

I dunno. Cold war ended... there is something new going on now tho
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:48 pm

why kill each other, when together they can profit much more? That is why the Cold War ended...
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Post by Viedzmin Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:06 pm

fully agreed Smile
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Post by Aureus Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:16 pm

I live right next to Yonkers =D


Yeah there isn't much going on in Yonkers, trust me. I don't see why they'd be there
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:19 pm

that is why they would be there... blending in.

do you not read ANY spy novels.. i mean the real ones not the action packed ones...
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Post by Aardvark Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:20 pm

Spy could be real, if you think countries don't spy on enemies and allies alike then you're too naive to be debating. It could also be fake, at which point they may be using it to gain leverage, or to excuse a military action. If there's anything you can take from life it's that governments never look out for their people unless it also benefits the people in power.
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Post by Viedzmin Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:25 pm

yes, they COULD be real but not these ones i think. they are people of different nationalities, live away from the government centers and : didn't have possibilities for spying (1st channel).
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Post by Aardvark Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:28 pm

Patriots can be turned, documents can be faked, and cosmetics can be applied. Proximity to a military base in this day and age is irrelevant. And you'd be surprised what you can learn as a janitor or security guard, or hell, even a civilian if you're good at acting.
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:32 pm

And these days the actual goals and aims of a government can be worth more than m,ilitary secrets. not to mention, planting subversives has been a time honored way of attacking a country from with in...

I have used the tactic many times and have been able to take cities and planets with little of no actual combat.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:02 pm

RL spying is too risky these days, apart from moles. True spying goes cybernetically.
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Post by Viedzmin Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:06 pm

and invisible to government )
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:21 pm

No these days subversives get elected to public office
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:27 pm

Dray The Fingerless wrote:RL spying is too risky these days, apart from moles. True spying goes cybernetically.
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Post by Nihil Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:59 am

Cold war screwed over america, not russia, in the long run.

oh ya, Russia is already corrupt as all get out, so... no difference to me.
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Post by dandaman7 Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:03 pm

Heard they aren't sure where one of them is now?
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Post by Ptolemy Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:22 pm

that is true skipped bail?

why do you let a spy out on bail?
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Post by dandaman7 Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:27 pm

Excellent question lol, but what sucks is that the escaped spy is screwed, because no one is going to hire him again if he gets caught spying.
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Post by Viedzmin Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:12 pm

the spy can make a error only 1 time...
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Post by Csipion Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:07 am

Viedzmin wrote:the spy can make a error only 1 time...
As a sapper.
P.S. This spyes used methods of more then 40 years old. So i dont think professionals can do like that. May be it wasnt a real spyes, only a kind of distracting thing...
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