Why the Institutionalized Deity is a logical blunder

People from all around the world claim their gods have made them powerful and helped them. This is a concurrent theme throughout history. Therefore, is it possible to say that any god is right when people claim miracles in the name of different gods? Claiming to have experienced a miracle by faith in god is not unique to a certain religious sect or religion in itself because every religion has people claim miracles from time to time accrediting them to their particular deity.

What is faith in an institutionalized god but faith in a god that provides miracles to that religious sect while other religious sects of an institutionalized god also receive miracles. Now i'm not going to discredit any "miracles" in particular, but what is to say that they are in this case?

"Miracles" are just "explanations" to things that happened in the past. Along with religion imo.

Ya, so how can any other religion ignore a miracle that another religion puts forth, its like, maddening, illogical.

also cog, there are many miracles that people attribute to god today.

I'm not saying people are wrong or that they shouldn't do that. I'm just saying that people who created these religions didn't have the technology and true(or more partially true) story of what happened in the past. We don't know how life started but in every other category science basically proves it and religion is just disagreeing with 0 proof. I-M-O religion 100% has more consequences than benefits. People blowing others up for a God is BS compared to them having something to hope for when they die. (Not stereotypical or saying that everyone does it. Just the gay ass radicals who I'd easily shoot in the toes 1 by 1 till they bled out =D)

Hate to break it to you, but they already found what an RNA precursor that could form life, naturally, through natural chemical bonds.

of course its still in its theory stage at best, not truly a theory yet at all, in the scientific sense.

idk wat exactly ur breaking to me xD

thats the theory on how life got started, one of the most interesting ones imo

Willing to accept that Divine ability isn't real, but can you completely discredit the idea of an intelligence higher then ours that may have played a role in history? The fact that people attribute events like this to a Deity throughout history should give you pause. Shouldn't there be at least one civilization that never thought of the idea of a God, a being with more power then themselves?

So to review, I think this point to non-human interference in history.

I like the theory of of the hyrdorgen, nitrogen etc. in the air due to Methane and all that in Ancient Earth and the lightning combining them into a protein and that protein attached to other things etc etc. I didn't hear of any RNA precursor before. I'll need to check that out

early man worshipped gods, Neanderthals did, and this provides what to my argument against an institutionalized diety?

also aard, what makes that point null is that humans, having a higher intelligence, sought to explain things, and when they couldn't explain them, they attributed it to some supernatural force. So obviously the Greeks had no idea why it rained and had lightning, so they made Zeus.

Nihil wrote:Greeks had no idea why it rained and had lightning, so they made Zeus.

People say that the Greek religion was wrong (not in like omfg thats racist wrong). But what makes their religion any less true than anyone else's? That's what people need to start really thinking. I don't care if people believe, but if it's hurting life, then they can gtfo or the religion can.

^thats what i'm trying to say, I think that if a god exists, it is definitely more personal than an institutionalized religion.

Disturbed wrote:read up on the aab e zam zam or I will not participate

I'm expecting gay porn... If it's longer then a page, IM NOT READING


EDIT: oohh look underground water, yaaay

I have already, water fountain, saudi arabia, not allowed to be sold outside Arabia, purported to have mystical healing properties, Where Abraham's son Ishmael kicked the water broke out.

Mankind has always been of the opinion that it is the center or the Universe. It was originally believed that Earth was the center of the Universe and that the Sun revolved around us. Humans always strive to make themselves the center of attention, make themselves better then they are. This makes a Deity complex a little out of place in my opinion, it breaks from the usual talk-out-your-ass-to-get-more-attention style characterized by history.

It's a bit close-minded to assume that only one side's reasons count for anything. You can believe what you will, but you should also admit that other possibilities may exist whether this be Deity, Alien, or Untermed as of yet.

Nihil wrote:I have already, water fountain, saudi arabia, not allowed to be sold outside Arabia, purported to have mystical healing properties, Where Abraham's son Ishmael kicked the water broke out.

Idk; what I got from what I read (this is literally speaking) is that someone made a well and hit a water... pit? Idk, a place where underground water collects


EDIT: Aard, you also have to understand that these "religious figures" (priests etc) actually used to have a ton of power so...

True, but at that point, why not claim that power yourself. It just seems an unnecessary middle step because it opens the possibility that the public will disregard the human and give their attention to the Deity only.

Aardvark wrote:True, but at that point, why not claim that power yourself. It just seems an unnecessary middle step because it opens the possibility that the public will disregard the human and give their attention to the Deity only.

Well when people claim power, more often then not that society hates people with complete power for themselves (Hitler, Stalin etc.). I'm not saying that they should like those leaders (they were fucked up, BUT, did something), I'm just saying, the Church acted like it was all good and everything and that they were always right. But since it wasn't "their" power, people didn't really hate them as much.


It sounded better in my head but I think you can interpret it. <-- Faith yay

Actually most religions become a center of hate, if not in their own country, then by other countries. To me, it seems more like taking advantage of a scenario, then making one up. There are far easier ways to get attention that would not require such a complex story.

But you miss my point. I'm saying to keep an open mind about things, and don't assume that because you can think of a possible reason, that another might not be correct. Don't assume that humans haven't had influence in history from outside our species.

Well obv we had influence from other species >,> xD

Non-terrestrial -_-

oh =), Well I do believe "Aliens" exist. SAying that makes me sound crazy, but it is actually more accurate than saying no. Out of all of the planets and all of the suns, moons, stars! It's nearly impossible there is no other form of life.