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Post by rsG Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:39 pm

Are you convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that jfks death is what it appears to be? By that i mean 1 shooter 3 bullets and no connection to the cia, or secrete service.

this documentary is done by oliver stone. and it is rated R. You see jfks fatal gun shot quite a few times, as well as some photos of him dead. Please before you come to any conclusion while watching the film just take a note and watch the whole thing first. This was a well documented report by oliver stone.He did all the research and still has the research. Its all official ( the reports and videos he shows). And connections on what happen in texas that day have never been looked into.. until now. This video is logical, not made by some teenager with a theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Stone heres some history of oliver.


The Crazy, Insane, out of this world, only nut cases believe this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4330031689287456187#

the movie is kinda long 1 hour and 27 min. The intro of the movie is just like a reminder of what happen, It becomes way stronger later on in the movie
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Post by Guest Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:44 pm

Interesting. I go with the theory that it had connections with the mafia. The assassin, I believe, had ties with the mafia. But it's interesting to read about & watch about other theories.

Oh and * jfk's assassination * lawl.

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Post by Disturbed Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:00 pm

ofc it was related to govt. He was a threat to the ppl running the show and they realized he was no puppet and thus put to rest
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Post by rsG Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:02 pm

ShadowSaint wrote:

Oh and * jfk's assassination * lawl.
lol i just saw that, when you have time try and watch the hole thing. The mafia couldnt of lost the presidents brain while his body was guarded by the secrete service. enless people in the secrete service where also in the mafia


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Post by rsG Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:03 pm

Disturbed wrote:ofc it was related to govt. He was a threat to the ppl running the show and they realized he was no puppet and thus put to rest
He also wanted to close the cia, and not fuck with cuba(bay of the pigs). Fidel castro is the fucking man.
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Post by Aardvark Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:06 pm

No, I don't think it was government. There are much easier ways to get rid of a problem without the chance for conspiracy. Much more likely would a different government, a corporation put at risk, or a criminal organization. Most assassinations give rise to conspiracies, and conspiracies hurt the government, whoever would choose to assassinate a major political figure would do so to damage the government and society itself. This would help a corporation by leaving people without trust in government goods and protection, would help a criminal organization by ridding patriots who will conspire to form a rebellion which leaves room for better crime, and would help another nation by destabilizing one and leaving rifts in the military.
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Post by rsG Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:10 pm

Aardvark wrote:No, I don't think it was government. There are much easier ways to get rid of a problem without the chance for conspiracy. Much more likely would a different government, a corporation put at risk, or a criminal organization. Most assassinations give rise to conspiracies, and conspiracies hurt the government, whoever would choose to assassinate a major political figure would do so to damage the government and society itself. This would help a corporation by leaving people without trust in government goods and protection, would help a criminal organization by ridding patriots who will conspire to form a rebellion which leaves room for better crime, and would help another nation by destabilizing one and leaving rifts in the military.
Enless they had an alternate agenda that didnt fit in with the goverments over all plan. and if the people doing it are trying to get into goverment. aardvark i feel like the movie could answer what im trying to say to you better then i can.
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Post by Aardvark Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:17 pm

I've already seen it. I know things could be gained by removing him, but there are also much smarter ways to remove him. Fake evidence to get him impeached, every single proposal he had would have been under very severe scrutiny and most would have probably been refuted even without evidence against them because they were the making of a corrupt politician. Assassinating him would be more likely to push through what he was already proposing rather then discourage it.

Murdering a public figure, if you want that person's ideals to fail, is the WORST possible thing you can do. It makes them a martyr.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:19 pm

well aard, there are plenty reasons a govt would do it, the simplest way to put it is if killing him does more good to us then not killing him. if kennedy wanted to shut down the major puppetry show that is the US government, senate yadda yadda, you sure as hell can bet that they can take some conspiracies as consequences just to get rid of that nuisance. and corrupting that person is dangerous for the corrupter since the shot can backfire. killing the nuisance makes it clean, and by placing the shooter's motives away from them, they ensure their safety.
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Post by rsG Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:25 pm

aard watch it from 26:00 to 40:00
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Post by Aardvark Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:37 pm

I still think it's far more likely a corporation. Yes faking guilt can backfire, but it's also a far more effective political deterrent.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:38 pm

sometimes, killing a person gets less trouble and less fuss. shoot, dead, done.
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Post by Aardvark Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:41 pm

Shoot, dead, martyr. Frame, shunned, pariah,
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:43 pm

govt doesnt care. never noticed that aard?

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complaints issued, any theories risen. it simply doesnt reach the higher court's ears. it doesnt really matter to them if you make them a martyr. they just make the press influence the people's opinions and done.
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Post by Aardvark Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:45 pm

Maybe not, but it can in sight rebellion. Already there's enough of an unsatisfied population that some states in America are thinking of ceding from the Union.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:46 pm

well thats not in the same vector thou. thats general bad management.
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Post by Aardvark Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:47 pm

Bad management pointed out by conspiracy theorists.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:48 pm

noo, bad management pointed out by the unemployment rate, taxes, and general deteriorating life quality all over the country.
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Post by Aardvark Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:51 pm

You mean those self-same things not publicized in the media any longer? Last news cast I saw said "Unemployment down from last month!" When I checked on line, the number of claims actually went UP by 8,000.
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Post by rsG Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:52 pm

Aardvark wrote:I still think it's far more likely a corporation. Yes faking guilt can backfire, but it's also a far more effective political deterrent.
watch it from 50:00 to like 65:00



Some things might not be understandble because you havnt watched the early part of the film


i just watched 66:00 (or 106:00 to 110:30) and i would it recommend Strongly. It shows the skull and bones connection to the people you just watched about


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Post by Aardvark Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:54 pm

RsG, I've already seen it, I saw it a couple years ago. It doesn't change the fact that it's a far more effective political weapon then assassination.
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Post by Disturbed Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:03 pm

Shunning Jfk would be useless, these ppl at the top don care, killing is easier and no conn to them can be found. They can hire the guy, then pretend to arrest him and let him go happy. Or kill him anyways. Its pretty risk free for them. And they don't give a damn about ppl's views, they made him a martyr, but has anyone ever followed him enough to end CIA? Or to close down Gitmo and stuff like that? No, ppl don't have enuf incentive and not enuf power. Jfk was some1 who wasn't ideal because he was honest or uncorrupt, so he automatically gets the boot. America has had good living standards and lots of focus on entertainment and comfort. Why do u think that is?
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Post by Aardvark Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:02 pm

I actually don't think the Intelligence Agencies are bad, we'd be worse off without them. They may do bad things to some people who don't deserve it, but they also sniff out a lot of problems.
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Post by Necal Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:45 pm

It was the cube people of gorthak six! Aligning with the lords of acid, who traveled back in time, they spoke to Martin Luther King Junior, informing him of the necessity of batteries, which, of course, led them to the Polar Bear alliance.

With their assistance, along with that of the Venusian high council, they managed to brainwash a potato chip to kill JFK, while providing evidence that made it appear that it was Lee Harvey Oswald, who actually was part of the terratin federation, and dedication to stopping the Cube people. However, he was unable to do so, and decided that it was best to take a fall, protecting all of humanity from the truth, which would require the Cubes to invade en masse, and destroy us all!

Wow... that sounded crazy even to me...
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Post by Nihil Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:24 am

JFK is probably one of our best known presidents, up there with the Washington, Lincoln and FDR.
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