Look how close Revan and Bane were to being on Clone Wars...

http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/?video=v001225#vid

opinions?

does not compensate for the shit this series has been. it may be getting good now, but fuck it, i hate it for too long now.

Well I agree, Revan turned Jedi at the end, it wouldn't be right to show him as a Sith Lord, and Bane's spirit got merged with Zannah at the end of their duel so neither exited as a Sith Force Ghost. You encounter the same problem with a lot of the old Lords either being turned to Jedi or having their spirits destroyed. Now a spirit I think that would have made an excellent Cameo would have been Traya.

nonsense. no more fucking spirits. i hate this fucking idea that anyone can be a fucking spirit. i hated it in kotor, and i hated it in JO, and i hate it here. you cant just be a fucking ghost. what the fuck is the point of being a jedi if going sith makes you 'stronger than ever in the force'? makes no fucking sense.

Uh oh Dray is ragin again
Anyway he does have a point it would be pathetic to have EVERY SINGLE DEAD SITH/JEDI AS A GHOST. Plus as aard said there would be a conflict to the main stories. I think it's a good idea they took that part out since it would be overkill in my opinion.

Sith Spirits aren't like Jedi Spirits. Sith Spirits are tied to a single point and can only gain power by corrupting those around them. Jedi Spirits can move freely and are far more powerful in death than in life, they are simply smart enough to not interfere directly. Anyway, I like the idea of Force Ghosts as long as they don't fight, I don't mind them corrupting people and giving advice.

Mammalman said:
I like the idea of Force Ghosts as long as they don't fight

Talkin' to you TFU. =o


Yeah i get that but either or I don't think having the two iconic Sith were a great idea...

Like I said Traya as a luring corrupting influence would have been nice. She has some of the most epic Philosophy lines in the series.

"He cannot kill what he cannot see, power has blinded him long ago."

"There is no strength in the hunger he possesses... and the will behind his power is a primal thing... He is already dead, it is simply a question of how many he kills before he falls."

"To be united by hatred is a fragile alliance at best."

"What do you wish to hear? That I once believed in the code of the Jedi? That I felt the call of the Sith, that perhaps, once, I held the galaxy by its throat? That for every good work that I did, I brought equal harm upon the galaxy? That perhaps the greatest of the Sith Lords knew of evil, they learned from me?"

"It is such a quiet thing, to fall. But far more terrible is to admit it.

"Skill does not always draw from the Force, but it is a measure of power nonetheless. It can grant knowledge, help steady oneself when one's thoughts are in chaos, or grant enlightenment."

"....what are they without the Force? Take the greatest Jedi Knight, strip away the Force, and what remains? They rely on it, depend on it, more than they know. Watch as one tries to hold a blaster, as they try to hold a lightsaber, and all you will see is nothing more than a woman -- or a man. A child." - About Jedi

Yeah, but the others not so much. But i saw the actual episode it was good imo. So it was a good idea. I would like to see however a series during the events of KOTOR or before hand even.

damn she bitch slapped the jedi there XD

aard you are fanatical about traya, and you know that she is poorly written when her final goal is to kill the force because she doesnt like it.

I THINK THE FORCE SHOULD DIE, BECAUSE OF IT, MILLIONS DIE BECAUSE OF IT. SO IM JUST GONNA DESTROY IT AND TAKE OUT ALL THE LIFE IN THE GALAXY WITH IT.

flawed purpose. you wanna write a character THAT wise, dont make its central goal be so faulty as that.

also, traya has no point in being a ghost. she had no goals of long life or corrupting. she just wanted one thing, and when she died, she could never again have it, she embraced death and went in peace. no need for her to be a ghost. no need for anyone to be a fucking ghost.

also this Father Son Daughter thing...why cant he just leave the fucking mistyque of the force alone? people like it BECAUSE of its mistery. first midi chlorians, now these guys, ITS BECOMING A MOCKERY

U mad.

thing944 wrote:U mad.

Yep He Mad.

actually, i agree with dray on the father/daughter/son thing. Another form of yin n yang

If they would have tied it in with Abeloth it would have been nice. You know not an origin or anything just a process by which one can become vastly more powerful then they ever should. But they didn't so the entire venture was kinda pointless especially when the whole advertising slogan was "Secrets will be revealed!"

And Dray, the character was fine, the storyline was unfinished.

I think the whole "Secrests revealed" related more to the young viewers that havn't seen the original trilogy yet

aard have you read Vortex yet on fotj? The fight scene with luke, ben, abeloth, vestara, and (I forgot the last sith)? jeezus that was instense

Yeah, although I hope they have something in mind with this whole undead thing cos they killed her twice and if they don't anything beyond "Oh she's mystical and you can't kill her!" then I'm gonna be pissed.

Can someone tell me what's happening?

READ BITCH!

In the show you mcfag pants.


What father/daughter/son thing?

Oh the kids died, the father's alive, and they all lived quasi-happily-ever-after. Really an anti-climactic ending especially after the first of the three.

What kids? What father?

thing944 wrote:What kids? What father?

i think its best if you watch those episodes lol

It basically had to do with anakins prophecy

You should still be able to watch them here: http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/starwars/index.html