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Post by Dawn_Twilight Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:29 pm

Where Article was Found: http://gaylife.about.com/b/2009/12/21/should-gays-ring-the-salvation-army-bell.htm

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"For years I've walked by the Salvation Army headquarters on 14th Street in New York City. There is almost always a homeless person taking shelter on the stairs waiting for the doors to open and occasionally there are white dispatch trucks parked outside. I look up each time, because the Salvation Army has been one of the most visible aide organizations that I can remember.

In fact, The Salvation Army is one of the largest volunteer banks, raising nearly $2 billion in private funds each year. Most recognize the Army by their street soldier: santa-suited bell ringers that stand outside of Macy's or the grocery store asking for loose change or stray dollars to support their mission.

But, for all the Salvation Army does for homelessness, disaster relief and international aide, they are public about their apprehension towards gays and lesbians. In fact, they discourage LGBT people from volunteering. Their web site reads:

"The Army regards the origins of a homosexual orientation as a mystery and does not regard a homosexual disposition as blameworthy in and of itself or rectifiable at will. Nevertheless, while we are not responsible for what we are, we are accountable for what we do; and homosexual conduct, like heterosexual conduct, is controllable and may be morally evaluated therefore in light of scriptural teaching.

"For this reason, such practices, if unrenounced, render a person ineligible for Salvation Army soldiership."

365gay.com columnist Lisa Neff writes: "I'll tell you that I used to contribute to the Salvation Army, though I was never enthusiastic about the organization's missionary work." Neff goes on to say, "I can find a charity more worthy of the stray dollar in my pocket."

Should gays and lesbians give to charities that lobby against LGBT interests? And, how can a philanthropic organization offer human rights services in some areas and lobby against rights in others? Charitable gifts shouldn't come with stipulations, but should our dollars be used against us? "

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Post by Thing Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:32 pm

I don't care. Really...
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Post by Ptolemy Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:20 pm

First, Sticking to ones beliefs is not hypocracy, it is the exact opposit. you should look up what words mean before you use them if you are not sure what they mean

Hypocrisy is defined below,
1. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.
2. a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude.

Near as i can tell they are taking a moral stand and are not making any bones about it... you will have to point out where this is hypocritical.

BTW, they do not say they will not help any one but that their beliefs prohibit them from allowing a homosexual from being a member.

Ultimatly it is your dollars that support it you have to weigh if you are doing more harm than good from trying to shut them down.
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Post by Aardvark Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:21 pm

Seems like the gay community is just trying to pick a fight here. They state they don't believe in gays and that if you are you shouldn't volunteer. It's a personal belief the founder(s) have and given all the good that the Salvation Army does, and given the fact that the charity has absolutely nothing to do with sexuality, it seems like the gay community just wants to force everyone to believe as they do.

That my friends is what a dictatorship does.
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Post by Disturbed Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:24 am

totally agreed, what does it want now...that all politicians be gay as well??
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