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Post by Mia Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:30 pm

Well all know bout it. But how do you look on it. ScreeFun says that some of old generation who follow Star Wars will tell that it's bad, and that new generations will welcome it with open arms.
I think that the Force Unleashed is awesome, and one of rare good things that can be made. I was talking with Dray bout this and he is all against it, so he doesn't like it. He said why, but it was not good enough for me to believe in it. So I must know am I only crazy here bout it or what? Would like to answer those questions. I will too.

1. How the Force Unleashed story effects original movies, is it connected good or it's a fake ? It is good, it shows us some things that are not in movies, like how did Republic got plans bout Death Star 1 .

2. Galen Marek is one in the Force, yes or no ? Yes.

3. His powers are epic, does that makes other characters like Yoda weak ? It doesn't, everything is possible in the Force. And Yoda could crash that Star Destroyer as well, without making ugly faces lol, like Marek did.

4. Is this game and story made only for money, or it is worth when you look it from any other corner ? Well people will never make game like this for free. But I think it's worth of money they ask, cause they worked hard to make something amazing and deep like this, the game is not made "over night". Well I cannot tell same for Sith Edition. But original the Force Unleashed is not just bout the money. It's valuable.

5. Luke Skywalker or Galen Marek ? Galen Marek (I did not answer this question fair, but still I chose him).
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Post by Aardvark Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:38 pm

He's against it like I am because it should NOT be canon. It should be fun non-canon for epic power, but not considered something that actually happened in SW. He's too powerful, being able to beat Vader and Palpatine in a single fight is impossible especially considering Palaptine was one of the only Sith powerful enough to generate Force Wormhole.
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Post by Jacen Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:41 pm

yeah...and luke skywalker epic owns, i bet Jacen was as strong as Marek, and Luke kicked his ass...if his little son hadn't given in to his hate, he would have killed him...
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Post by Mia Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:43 pm

Aardvark wrote:He's against it like I am because it should NOT be canon. It should be fun non-canon for epic power, but not considered something that actually happened in SW. He's too powerful, being able to beat Vader and Palpatine in a single fight is impossible especially considering Palaptine was one of the only Sith powerful enough to generate Force Wormhole.

Vader learned from Palpatine, Marek learned from Vader, so why not? I take this is all your 5 answers. Title is the Force Unleashed, they cant show weak main character in it. And Lucas agreed 100% for that. How this cannot be canon when at end apprentice fights master, its so Star Wars original.
People, pls answer the questions like I did lol.
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Post by Aardvark Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:47 pm

You don't get it. The game trashes all SW canon by being too powerful. It makes Luke and Yoda seem like weaklings when in traditional canon they were two of the strongest Jedi to ever live.
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Post by Jacen Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:48 pm

They WERE the 2 strongest jedi to ever live
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Post by Mia Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:52 pm

Then read my answer on that question again, so tell me what I don't understand ? After all Marek was secret apprentice, and he is not remembered like others.
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Post by Jacen Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:53 pm

well, Jacen is also pretty strong...any of them could kick Galen's ass...
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Post by Aardvark Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:54 pm

I don't have a problem with the story. I have a problem with it being canon. You don't need to say "This happened" to make it fun you could leave it non-canon, like saying "What if..." It still would have been fun, but it wouldn't have made Luke look weak.
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Post by Mia Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:02 pm

Story is good, and cause it's canon it makes it special, A New Hope can stand free on it, without problems. And if you look it like this, Luke did not start at same age training as Marek, and they did not have special effects to use then like they use now. I don't say that special effects makes things better, but it made you believe that Marek is more powerful. Well you place on same position Luke and Yoda who is animated.
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Post by Sqrl Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:10 pm

yeah i agree with aard
what they should of done was instead of making it canon they should of just made a non-canon game instead of actually telling how the rebellion was formed. For one thing it was a bad idea to have the main protaganist (aka: Starkiller) end up forming the rebellion in the first one.

And it was supposedly Vader's Plan for taking over the Emperor.
My point im trying to get across is that some of the story plots that actually interact with the movies are a little confusing.
But in the second one i think they should make it a sort of parody/what aard said non-canon "What If?" storyline but anywho i have spoken lol
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:10 pm

I dont disliek the game, i dislike what it does to the rest of teh Star Wars. its a fun game, its a bareable story, IF IT WASNT CANON. when it is canon, it makes me hurt a bit seeing a punk kid defeat vader and palps, trash a star destroyer(btw, yoda couldnt do this mia, when they say evth is possible, it doesnt mean it gives someone limitless power) and also, making a game is always hard work mia, but the part that fails is the story and what they gave him.

HE IS NOT THE CHOSEN ONE MIA, GEORGE LUCAS HAS SAID THAT THE CHOSEN ONE IS ANAKIN SKYWALKER, THE MOST POWERFUL FORCE SENSITIVE EVER TO EXIST.

Galen Marek is a wound in the literary world of star wars. he should be a dream, not a event. for me, Luke and Yoda were outstanding, unmatched heroes, and vader and palps were cruel, and most powerful siths ever. these characters are the beacon of power and heroity in star wars. the story was made, the heroes and villains were done, star wars did not need, and should not have a overpowered character like galen marek in it. he is nothing but the result of dreamy game designers/star wars fans who wanted to make sth 'cool' and 'badass'. i mean, read this:


"The Apprentice is the photo negative of Luke Skywalker. He's been raised by Darth Vader, and is what Luke would have become if he had joined his father. Vader's not a very nice daddy. This guy has been raised to be a Jedi. When the Jedi use the Force, they respect it and don't overuse it. The bad guys - the Sith - keep testing their limits. Vader discovered this person who had the potential to be the most powerful Force user ever. He's up there with the top tier. He's extremely powerful. Vader has trained him in such a way that he just kept pushing his limitations, seeing how far he could use the Force. So, where a normal Jedi might use the Force to trick his way past a few stormtroopers, the apprentice might use the Force to bring down an adjacent building on top of those stormtroopers. He's extremely confident in everything he does. He's been trained by Vader to be an assassin, an unstoppable force."
Haden Blackman, lead projector of Star Wars Galaxies and The Force Unleashed.

The first bulge i made shows how much of a fanboy this guy is. Its like he is in a dream, his wet dream of making Star Wars stuff. Cool stuff.

The second bulge i made shows his disrespect for evth previously made, DECADES AGO, by the CREATOR of the thing he is drooling about. seriously, the most powerful force user ever? you gotta have BALLS, and NO brain to say that.
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Post by Sqrl Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:13 pm

another thing i want to bring up is how much powerful can you get in the force unleashed?

I mean i think its cool and all that you can bring down star destroyers with the force and destroy a friggin giant heap of metal using the force but do you think that these characters are becoming a little TOO powerful?
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Post by Mia Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:35 pm

I would ask Haden Blackman for answers lol, I asked you here who know bout it, guess too much. As you see, he is not more powerful then Yoda to me. So I see cause Movie doesn't need TFU it means TFU is bad for Movie ? It doesn't need it, but now it looks better, we know what was happening in that period, and why they made him as secret, to not ruin movie, and they didn't. Lucas would never let someone destroy his work, he agreed with it cause it is good, and I agree with that too. I wanted your opinions and I have them so ty. Dray, I had yours already on xfire, maybe bigger then this one, you didn't need to type 99999999999999999999 words to tell me again, I am too lazy to read all that lol, but I did. It wouldn't be good story if someone is not too powerful. I would like to hear others, it doesn't bother me if you are all against it, but if you are all, then maybe I am crazy, but wouldn't be first time ihihihihih. Razz
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Post by Sqrl Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:37 pm

im not exactly against the game its just the canon things and the over abuse of power............ other wise i like flinging stormies everywhere
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Post by Mia Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:51 pm

Thank you Sqrl2k. You have Sith Edition for no canon play, they made game for both of us lol. For those who will next post here please answer questions first that I made at start of topic, cause that is what I want to know. And if you have to add something, you can do that after answering questions.
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Post by Jacen Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:12 am

lookit, the Delegation of 2000 made the Rebellion...but Organa, Mothma, and Bel-Iblis carried it
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Post by Mia Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:04 am

Mia wrote:For those who will next post here please answer questions first that I made at start of topic, cause that is what I want to know. And if you have to add something, you can do that after answering questions.

My English is not the best but I know, I thought that everyone can understand what I said here, and asked. But I see that it is not clear for Jakev007. Topic is what I said at start, and rest should answer the questions if they want to post here, if that is too difficult then stay out of it. When you make your own topic and I want to be part of it, if there is a questions I'll give you the answers. I respect others opinions, but I don't respect when someone avoid when I clearly said what I want to know. In case you did not understand Jakev007 I am sorry, and it is ok, that's why I said all of this again.

Answer those questions and if you have to add something more bout the Force Unleashed, add it after your answers. My answers are on first page. Once again please, if you want to post here answer the questions first then add after answers something if you have what. I hope it is clear now. I don't need anyone to agree with me or Lucas, if something "stinks" I will ask why or try to understand it. But I will ask only those who answer questions, I will ignore others. Answer them, or leave it be. Thank you.

1. How the Force Unleashed story effects original movies, is it connected good or it's a fake ?
2. Galen Marek is one in the Force, yes or no ?
3. His powers are epic, does that makes other characters like Yoda weak ?
4. Is this game and story made only for money, or it is worth when you look it from any other corner ?
5. Luke Skywalker or Galen Marek ? Razz
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Post by BgFighter/Ghost Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:45 am

I will answer your questions now Razz
1. How the Force Unleashed story effects original movies, is it connected good or it's a fake ?
2. Galen Marek is one in the Force, yes or no ?
3. His powers are epic, does that makes other characters like Yoda weak ?
4. Is this game and story made only for money, or it is worth when you look it from any other corner ?
5. Luke Skywalker or Galen Marek ?

1.Its somekind of fake .. too unrealistic
2. I guess he is not ,if it wasn't Vader ..
3.No they are not epic ,they are epicless ,which means yoda is way better ,it doesnt matter what game says!
4.Its made for money only. They said they wont do it for PC cuz there will be so much fans that wont be able to play ,and now in times of crysis they create a pc version...
5.Galen Marek cuz of his fight style Razz

And for PC there is only Ultimate Sith Edition ....
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Post by Mia Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:12 pm

I hear you BG, we agree in 3d and 5th question. I only heard bout Crysis. Since you compare those two different things I take that Crysis is awesome.
PC version doesn't have only Ultimate Sith Edition, that's not true. It has it's original story and Ultimate Sith Edition shows us what would be if Marek killed Vader. So that's not canon and it's just made for money and fun, they just used same things from original TFU and made something of it, I don't like Ultimate Sith Edition.
At end Emperor killed Marek on sith way. He acted as weak and strike when it's less expected. No matter how game showed Marek as epic, he died against full power of the dark side of Emperor's lighting.
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Post by BgFighter/Ghost Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:42 pm

I talked about world crisis or whatever its called now ... its not just the point to create a game for money ,its all about gameplay and more. Yes ,TFU has awesome gameplay but they didnt created it like the other games. And its like the PSP one ,just 3 new missions ,they could have added a few more ,i dont believe i mission is 2GB or whatever. And in-game u can choose light or dark ,to kill vader or attack emperror who kills them both (vader and marek).
Marek didnt had enough power to strike the emperror's lightning and he was hitted bad ,which means he died from the electricity .. bad end anyway .. u die in both ways Very Happy And why don't u like UST (Ultimate Sith ed.) ?? cuz it has 3 new missions that are unique and that are pretty detailed and kewl? Wink
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Post by Mia Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:24 pm

Cause original TFU is better without it. It's if fun to go around and destroy everything and everyone, but it is not original. TFU is good anyhow, USE only as game.
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Post by BgFighter/Ghost Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:32 pm

LOL ,thats why its Ultimate - OOUULLTTIMAAATEEEEHHHH - Sith Edition Wink
Cuz there are 3 more missions as sith before end or whatever they are set on Razz
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Post by CaptainSpanish Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:27 pm

My opinion, it is canon.

Didn't George Lucas approve of this?

George gave us a history lesson about what the major characters in the Saga were doing in that time frame, and offered feedback and suggestions about the plot and characters.

from Kotaku.com

Of course George Lucas also made up Midi-chlorians and tried to make it technical

He's a great director, but his successes are polarized. The greatest movies as well as the worst have come out.

I do believe though that Galen's powers are wayyyy too overpowered in such a short span of time. I don't think he could rival the powers of the ancient jedi and sith, beat the chosen one Anakin, and pull down a star destroyer.

But regardless, it's canon.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:34 pm

thats why me and aard are so pissed off span. its canon, and i blame this shitty projector and george lucas for trashing this saga.
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