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Post by Ptolemy Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:52 pm

Dray The Fingerless wrote:
Ptolemy wrote:So slapping women around is funny...

Even women pixels

If you cant laugh at the self parody that is Duke Nukem, then either you are WAY ABOVE THE snob line in comedy, or wayyy below the understanding comedy line. Life is just a ride, and while there are moments you need to be serious and concentrated, you must laugh your way thru it. Or risk not enjoying it.

OK then ask this, how will a 10 - 14 yo know the diff?

Now i am not in favor of censorship so do not get me wrong. I will vote with my money and the game designers can do what they want. Does not mean you have to buy it but, there are always those idiots that do not think before they allow their kids to do things that are not in their best interests.
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Post by Aardvark Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:02 pm

Ptolemy wrote:So slapping women around is funny...

Even women pixels

When it's a bum slap and you get a cheesy macho voice saying, "Ah hell I'd still hit it" yes it's funny. It's fucking hilarious.
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:17 pm

Aardvark wrote:
Ptolemy wrote:So slapping women around is funny...

Even women pixels

When it's a bum slap and you get a cheesy macho voice saying, "Ah hell I'd still hit it" yes it's funny. It's fucking hilarious.

ok give you that one but still, 10 + on the play ground + Bum slap on a girl + 'i'd hit that' = sexual preditor in most deluded minds that are in charge of our children.
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Post by Aardvark Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:19 pm

You mean the same kids that will randomly yank down other kids pants as a prank?
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:28 pm

Ptolemy wrote:
Dray The Fingerless wrote:
Ptolemy wrote:So slapping women around is funny...

Even women pixels

If you cant laugh at the self parody that is Duke Nukem, then either you are WAY ABOVE THE snob line in comedy, or wayyy below the understanding comedy line. Life is just a ride, and while there are moments you need to be serious and concentrated, you must laugh your way thru it. Or risk not enjoying it.

OK then ask this, how will a 10 - 14 yo know the diff?

Now i am not in favor of censorship so do not get me wrong. I will vote with my money and the game designers can do what they want. Does not mean you have to buy it but, there are always those idiots that do not think before they allow their kids to do things that are not in their best interests.

That is a flawed perspective. You excuse the exclusion of possible art and useful creations to humanities evolution and diversity for the excuse that we are imperfect beings.
You know what? Cars. Yes. Cars. Fucking ban them. All. they kill more people than any tyrant ever dreamed of killing. Some people are idiots or have idiotic moments and they manage to cause destruction. We are more than capable of walking or using public transportation if we fully invested on them instead of cars. Hell, you could have a bus stop at your house and take you to work on the way if we fully invested on them. So yeah, cars. lets ban them. because young minds(AND EVEN ADULT ONES HALF THE TIME) cannot comprehend them and use them perfectly all the time.

I know you agree with me, but id rather you didnt defend this view Fox has. It is flawed. terribly flawed.
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:15 pm

Aardvark wrote:You mean the same kids that will randomly yank down other kids pants as a prank?

Yup Thats them

Dray The Fingerless wrote:
Ptolemy wrote:
Dray The Fingerless wrote:
Ptolemy wrote:So slapping women around is funny...

Even women pixels

If you cant laugh at the self parody that is Duke Nukem, then either you are WAY ABOVE THE snob line in comedy, or wayyy below the understanding comedy line. Life is just a ride, and while there are moments you need to be serious and concentrated, you must laugh your way thru it. Or risk not enjoying it.

OK then ask this, how will a 10 - 14 yo know the diff?

Now i am not in favor of censorship so do not get me wrong. I will vote with my money and the game designers can do what they want. Does not mean you have to buy it but, there are always those idiots that do not think before they allow their kids to do things that are not in their best interests.

That is a flawed perspective. You excuse the exclusion of possible art and useful creations to humanities evolution and diversity for the excuse that we are imperfect beings.
You know what? Cars. Yes. Cars. Fucking ban them. All. they kill more people than any tyrant ever dreamed of killing. Some people are idiots or have idiotic moments and they manage to cause destruction. We are more than capable of walking or using public transportation if we fully invested on them instead of cars. Hell, you could have a bus stop at your house and take you to work on the way if we fully invested on them. So yeah, cars. lets ban them. because young minds(AND EVEN ADULT ONES HALF THE TIME) cannot comprehend them and use them perfectly all the time.

I know you agree with me, but id rather you didnt defend this view Fox has. It is flawed. terribly flawed.

I guess i need to actually read the article... i was taking my own stand pointing out stupid people. I am also not sure the pint of the story is to get the game banned. It is informative, Informational and, i think, leaves it to the reader to decide. That first line not with standing.

And the car example is an old and irrelevent straw man. ban cars ban all knives, baseball bats, golf clubs, shovels, pitch forks any farming implement under its own power or sharp in anyway hell you should ban anything that adds to the convenience and quality of life cause it could all be used as weapons. every bit of it. computers phones are dangerous cause they distract and cause cancer. since all the tools are gone we cannot make more any way. Then we have to do something about all those rocks and sticks laying around cause those are dangerous to.

silly innnit?
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:37 pm

Ptolemy wrote:
Aardvark wrote:You mean the same kids that will randomly yank down other kids pants as a prank?

Yup Thats them

Dray The Fingerless wrote:
Ptolemy wrote:
Dray The Fingerless wrote:
Ptolemy wrote:So slapping women around is funny...

Even women pixels

If you cant laugh at the self parody that is Duke Nukem, then either you are WAY ABOVE THE snob line in comedy, or wayyy below the understanding comedy line. Life is just a ride, and while there are moments you need to be serious and concentrated, you must laugh your way thru it. Or risk not enjoying it.

OK then ask this, how will a 10 - 14 yo know the diff?

Now i am not in favor of censorship so do not get me wrong. I will vote with my money and the game designers can do what they want. Does not mean you have to buy it but, there are always those idiots that do not think before they allow their kids to do things that are not in their best interests.

That is a flawed perspective. You excuse the exclusion of possible art and useful creations to humanities evolution and diversity for the excuse that we are imperfect beings.
You know what? Cars. Yes. Cars. Fucking ban them. All. they kill more people than any tyrant ever dreamed of killing. Some people are idiots or have idiotic moments and they manage to cause destruction. We are more than capable of walking or using public transportation if we fully invested on them instead of cars. Hell, you could have a bus stop at your house and take you to work on the way if we fully invested on them. So yeah, cars. lets ban them. because young minds(AND EVEN ADULT ONES HALF THE TIME) cannot comprehend them and use them perfectly all the time.

I know you agree with me, but id rather you didnt defend this view Fox has. It is flawed. terribly flawed.

I guess i need to actually read the article... i was taking my own stand pointing out stupid people. I am also not sure the pint of the story is to get the game banned. It is informative, Informational and, i think, leaves it to the reader to decide. That first line not with standing.

And the car example is an old and irrelevent straw man. ban cars ban all knives, baseball bats, golf clubs, shovels, pitch forks any farming implement under its own power or sharp in anyway hell you should ban anything that adds to the convenience and quality of life cause it could all be used as weapons. every bit of it. computers phones are dangerous cause they distract and cause cancer. since all the tools are gone we cannot make more any way. Then we have to do something about all those rocks and sticks laying around cause those are dangerous to.

silly innnit?

OOOO a digital interactive experience that is a comedic parody not intended for kids, and actually adds to the pile of other interactive experiences out there that are works of art people enjoy and relax with. BAN IT!

silly innit?

you try to separate them, but you really cant.i could say cars as much as i could say youre favourite sin Ptolemy, food. oh sure, food is needed, but the greasy meaty food? no, you can live on healthy food; salads n soups. no sodas and fries and chips and fried stuff. why need them? BAN IT.

silly innit?

OOO alcohol, ban it!
OOOOOOO tv, ban it!

btw, its Fox News. it wants to get it banned. but yeah, theyre just a news channel. all they can do is...'inform'.

i dont really care if people find it despicable, i do however hate ignorantic view of casting sth as too depraved for humanity to ever witness and that it should be wiped from existence..
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:24 pm

I am not talking about humanity as a whole i am talking about our kids. I think what is described is to much for most 14 yo. you don't agree fine. has there been any other stories from any other news source or are you hatin on fox?

For the record, I could not care less what you look at or what you allow your kid to look at. your choice your problem. as for me and mine this will not see the light of day and i am pretty sure my son will agree.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:41 pm

there is a difference between choosing not to see or interact with sth, and having the choice taken from you. This game is properly labeled by the ESRB and 20 gazillion ads, people, sindicates. There is no hiding what it has.

Why you are doing a completely irrelevant argument to the matter is beyond me. Wtf are you talkin about kids? Fox isnt saying "This game has really adult humor and adult preconceptions. Its not for your kids". They are saying " This game is horrible and is the reason our kids are rotten and vile." in other words, promoting the idea of outright banning anth deemed too vile for our kids. THAT is bullshit. IF ANTH, the desensitizing of societal culture, the way we promote the vulgarity and profanities so EASILY to EVERYONE is whats making our kids rotten and vile. If you call that out on video games, you can relate it all the way to FOX NEWS ITSELF.

As a personal opinion, i dont believe profanity and vulgarity are the problem. I was raised in that ambience, and i would not tolerate injustice or misery if i saw it with my eyes. In fact it pains me to see hate and sadness in someone. Because i was raised aware of true social morals, and raised to distinguish the vulgarity from the important. I think absence of care is whats killing us, not abundance of evil.
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:10 pm

Kids are what i started out talking about or did you forget?

It is a hit piece on the game but you can see that the publisher expected this and the free publicity will do little but boost sales.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:25 pm

Ptolemy wrote:Kids are what i started out talking about or did you forget?

It is a hit piece on the game but you can see that the publisher expected this and the free publicity will do little but boost sales.

Do you publish Anne Frank or Horror movies for kids? This is the same. the notion that all games are for kids is stupid. And yes, kids go see horror movies, anne frank and porn anyway. its not the authors fault. they dont publish it for kids.
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:33 pm

so we allow our kids to do what they like and hope they turn out ok... right?

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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:45 pm

Ptolemy wrote:so we allow our kids to do what they like and hope they turn out ok... right?


i never said that, no one fox is attacking or youre attacking has said that. then again, what you choose to show your kid is your responsibility. not mines. or foxs. or Gearbox and the Duke Nukem creators. you, or fox, are basically starting a fight where there is none, with people who have no business in meddleing with it.


on the topic, wow Duke Nukem has a reassuring slap. please, ive seen FAAAAAR worser stuff, WAYYY worser. but fox knows just to pick the ones that catch peoples eyes Wink.

journalism is so dead.
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Post by Sqrl Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:58 pm

GTA San Andreas's "Hot Coffee Mod"
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Post by Aardvark Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:52 pm

Yeah the Fox article also makes it seem like a literal slap to the face and leave out that it's a bum slap, like you see on TV ALL THE TIME.
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:58 pm

Sqrl wrote:GTA San Andreas's "Hot Coffee Mod"

That one actually had argument behind it. It was really stupid of Rockstar to leave that kind of content available on the disc. They fucked up on that one.
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Post by tRibaL Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:59 am

yeah dray, im pretty sure thats one of rockstars worst fuckups
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Post by DDruid777 Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:02 pm

^ agreed
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