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Still Think Govt run health care is better?

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Post by Ptolemy Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:57 pm

Peakes woman loses her baby, dignity while awaiting hospital treatment

Jonas, 32, sewed up his own leg after ER wait

Proof positive? no but i would rather not be subjected to substandard care such as this.


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Post by Dray The Fingerless Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:01 pm

This is really a fallacy filled argument. Induction is not a viable argument. I would not mind in a counter argument as much, but to start a debate its pretty weak.

For explanation,
Induction: X is member of Y. if X has Z, then all members of Y have Z.
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Post by Aragorn Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:35 pm

How is it fallacy filled? It showing the results of Government run health care?
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:23 am

asking a question with leading evidence is a tried and true tactic in any debate... and you didn't answer the question...
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Post by Aardvark Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:27 am

The problem is that this stuff also happened before Government run Health Care. Alone it doesn't prove anything.
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Post by Dr. Patient Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:31 am

I think Govt Healthcare is the BEST!!!!!!!!!.

sarcasm btw.
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Post by Champion Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:33 am

I think people need to give it some time. In any change of system when dealing with millions of people incidents are bound to happen and should be expected. It will provide a learning process to better the system. If the system is left as is with the problems intact, then you can point the finger at the government. I think you need to give them a chance before you can do that.
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Post by Disturbed Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:53 am

I agree the argument kinda...is fallacy. Its like Just because there is rape in America then Americans are flawed rapists.


Doesn't work that way, but I am against govt healthcare for other reasons
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Post by Aardvark Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:55 am

Oh I'm against it by nature, but this is a debate center and the main point for debate doesn't hold enough water to start one.
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Post by MasterBaitinTroll Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:43 am

I think democrats should burn along with Government Health Care shit!


Also people who like gun control They should burn as well!
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Post by Thing Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:09 am

pretty rave girl/Satan wrote:I think democrats should burn along with Government Health Care shit!


Also people who like gun control They should burn as well!
Wow, that's fucking ignorant.


I doubt you know anything about the bill anyway. Evil or Very Mad
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Post by Dr. Patient Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:24 am

thing944 wrote:
pretty rave girl/Satan wrote:I think democrats should burn along with Government Health Care shit!


Also people who like gun control They should burn as well!
Wow, that's fucking ignorant.


I doubt you know anything about the bill anyway. Evil or Very Mad

Yo Dawg I heard you like Gun control,

So I put a Gun inside your gun so you can shoot while you shoot.
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Post by Nihil Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:53 pm

lol at doctor^

You dawg, I heard you like babies so i put a baby inside of your baby so you can have a baby while having a baby.

lol

anyways

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/

http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/U.S.%20HCweb.pdf


read those and have an epiphany
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Post by Ptolemy Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:59 pm

Krugman is a leftist hack who has no real world experience... a typical academic full of ideas that have no basis in reality...

*ducks
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Post by Nihil Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:12 pm

Ok then, read the other one if you don't like Krugman.
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Post by MasterBaitinTroll Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:18 pm

I may know very little about the health care bill but i dont want Obama deciding when i get to see the doctor tht is a load of schmidt (sorry if any of u have tht last name) but for one gun control is a bad idea 2 i realize obama wont actualy do it but still I would rather pay for my own health care than have my taxes pay for another thing tht the government makes money they use for bail outs on that is dumb I dont care if it is cheaper!or anything else
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Post by MasterBaitinTroll Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:27 pm

Nihil wrote:lol at doctor^

You dawg, I heard you like babies so i put a baby inside of your baby so you can have a baby while having a baby.

lol

anyways

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/

http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/U.S.%20HCweb.pdf


read those and have an epiphany
I read these and I don't like it one they are both leftys two it complains about people with out care! I thought of some people I know who don't have a job and complain about it and the govt gives them money! Today I found a sight that any of them could find by looking up jobs!


http://www.laborready.com/ If you can get a job that easily you can work your way up and find permanent jobs if someplace you work wants to keep you that is how my uncle who is a convicted felon for having a met*h lab pays for insurance so surely they can find employment and stop there belly aching and get some insurance!
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Post by Thing Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:06 pm

You can say Meth, y'know...
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Post by MasterBaitinTroll Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:21 pm

yeah but my stupid thing says it blocks dru* refrence so im not sure how much
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Post by Thing Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:36 pm

Well, let's make a list... Twisted Evil
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Post by MasterBaitinTroll Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:55 pm

No I think not plz!
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