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Post by Talkin'boutFreedom Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:51 pm

Non-Euclidean Triangle

Basically this is it, proving a triangle can be 180<

Non-Euclidean Saddle

Also here is another image proving that the angles of triangle can =/ 180
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Post by soran Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:55 pm

but a reg triangle is automatically 180 because it usually always adds to 180
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Post by Talkin'boutFreedom Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:57 pm

''Usually'' which means euclidean , the triangle on the earth is also a ''reg'' triangle in a sense. With the exception that it is being projected upon a 2d surface that exists in a 3d space.
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Post by Sinusoidal Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:00 pm

no one ever said a triangle has to have 3 straight sides, just has to have 3 sides and 3 angles
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Post by soran Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:14 pm

With the exception that it is being projected upon a 2d surface that exists in a 3d space.

^ see now that sentence right there is the only issue i have with becuz its rlly confusing
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Post by Aureus Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:16 pm

Are we arguing about a shape?
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:22 pm

Serv is basically yanking you guys. This is not a triangle in geometry per se, but it is the same as in everyithing. In normal people terms, evolution is the theory to how life in the present came to be, and how it will become. In MY theory, life just spawned randomly. In geometry accepted, A triangle is one of the basic shapes of geometry: a polygon with three corners or vertices and three sides or edges which are line segments. In other theories, they may call a triangle any shape with 3 sides and 3 vertices.

SUMMARIZING, those 3d shapes are called triangles because in the theory of non eucledian shapes, its the only name they give them. This is quite a falaccy isnt it? Personally i think its shameful people took Euclid's naming of a certain object and went like "HEY, I SAY THIS IS A TRIANGLE BECUZ I SAID SO, NO ONE OWNS THAT WORD". As a homage to that, im gonna start calling fire, water. see how that turns up things....
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Post by soran Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:57 pm

.... T_T is all i can say to your guy's wording lol
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Post by Champion Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:22 pm

What happens when you place the triangle in the FIFTH dimension!
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Post by Thing Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:23 pm

what the fuck are we doing...?
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:02 am

Champion wrote:What happens when you place the triangle in the FIFTH dimension!

you skipped fourth.
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Post by behalok Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:20 am

This is getting interesting... Very Happy
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Post by Champion Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:31 am

Dray The Fingerless wrote:
Champion wrote:What happens when you place the triangle in the FIFTH dimension!

you skipped fourth.

Time is the fourth dimension. Its obvious it can move through the 4th dimension, it has since the moment he posted since time has passed.
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Post by Talkin'boutFreedom Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:41 am

And Space-time/Gravity is the 5th
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:02 am

There is no real definition for it Serv. Just aloooooot of theories....WHY DONT WE HEAT THIS UP AND GO ALL 11 DIMENSIONS?
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Post by Sqrl Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:06 am

Sounds like a party to me. Lets Go!!

Party In the 11th Dimension!!!!

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Post by Talkin'boutFreedom Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:11 am

No there is loose defintion of it

4th dimension is just an extra dimension compared to the 3rd which is of course is , time as the additional dimension as stated by the Theory of Relativity. The 5th of course would be another dimension which is said to be essentially gravity since gravity can bend the Space-Time continuum which is the ''true'' additional element to the 5th dimension.
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Post by Champion Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:19 am

Talkin'boutFreedom wrote:No there is loose defintion of it

4th dimension is just an extra dimension compared to the 3rd which is of course is , time as the additional dimension as stated by the Theory of Relativity. The 5th of course would be another dimension which is said to be essentially gravity since gravity can bend the Space-Time continuum which is the ''true'' additional element to the 5th dimension.

Whos mind was blown?
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Post by Dray The Fingerless Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:53 am

Talkin'boutFreedom wrote:No there is loose defintion of it

4th dimension is just an extra dimension compared to the 3rd which is of course is , time as the additional dimension as stated by the Theory of Relativity. The 5th of course would be another dimension which is said to be essentially gravity since gravity can bend the Space-Time continuum which is the ''true'' additional element to the 5th dimension.


the part 'loose' being untested theory, such as the M theory. Its nice and sounds well, but doesnt have enough data to proove itself.
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Post by Champion Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:13 pm

The problem I have with that, is if we make gravity into a dimension, then since its a force of nature we need to do the same for the weak and strong nuclear forces and also a dimension for electromagnetism. Unless I am missing the point completely?
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Post by Talkin'boutFreedom Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:36 pm

Well the thing with gravity is the reason why it is considered another dimension is cause time can be slowed down by gravity since it is said the stronger the gravitational the slower time goes by. So it's a dimension that plays on the 4th dimension, there is another theory that since gravity is the weaker forces of I think the 3 fundamental forces, it is actually part of another dimension that leaks into our dimension.
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Post by Sinusoidal Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:05 pm

i believe you can classify the electromagnetic forces their own dimensions, classifying dimensions past 4th is really completely arbitrary
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Post by Talkin'boutFreedom Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:23 pm

Hell the common thing now is that there is 11 dimensions now with the string theory
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Post by Champion Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:00 pm

I think the problem is people are trying to "classify" everything when in reality everything that you are classifying is really part of something bigger that we do not realize. Like gravity for instance, now they say most of it is caused by other dimensional mass, what I see with all this dimension crap is that physics is merely a taste of the tiny spec of existence that is our universe in a much larger soup, and that soup is part of a much larger one, just as if we go smaller things become part of their own soup and I bet beyond strings if you keep getting smaller we get to more soup and on and on and the entire thing is all looped in a closed "universe" so to speak, and thus eventually if you get small enough you will become big enough to see our universe perhaps as a tiny spec much like an atom.

We just happen to be sitting in this particular part of this loop of "mass".
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Post by Talkin'boutFreedom Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:13 pm

Everything you just said is well... already said Razz. They basically say our universe is simply a ''membrane'' and we are part of a bigger cell and this can go either way; macro or micro for a good amount of turns
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