The End of Democracy in America

This probably the most incredibly silly thing I've seen judges do!

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission

Citizens United has just won all corporations to pump, basically, all the money they want into campaigns and, in affect, drown out the voices of the people.

the first amendment is for the people, not corporations, this ruling allows "independent expenditures by unions and corporations"

no one man has enough money to match the power and influence of corporations

Surprisingly, to the New York Times, conservatives and libertarians favor this

they would be the last group of people i would expect.

Americans don't need to get their information from big business, they get it through newpapers, their public library and the news stations.

People on both sides have called this outrageous, I think it is, in the states that allow this, i think it is too. Now those 20 something states that prohibit this have to change their laws, and corporate influences in elections are not good for people, just good for their individual business, which, as we have seen from the last year, can lead to economic meltdowns.

what do you think?

i think u have been foolish to think your parties would disapprove this, since they are only a mascarade for the big boss corporation leaders to mendle the government as much as they want.

We're boned. I expected shit like this to happen with all the corruption that's been growing in government but I'm still sad to see it come about. As for the New York Times, paper hasn't had any worthwhile articles or writers in a LONG time, you can disregard them. They've basically become the rich man's National Enquirer.

srry i had to post that since you said big bossXD

but ya, in some since, they are, because we allow them to be

Money is power......

nothing new

John Locke my friends, John Locke

Nihil wrote:

srry i had to post that since you said big bossXD

but ya, in some since, they are, because we allow them to be

lol, you ALLOW them to be? this has been going on before your PARENTS were born. there is no allowing them...

This is mankind we are talking about. We cant expect anything less.

i'm saying we as americans

MasterFrostBiite wrote:John Locke my friends, John Locke

lol, I just strted to watch Lost!

As for the topic, fuck em!!


I don't know who "them" are, but fuck em!!

John Locke

an English Philosopher, he is considered one of the greatest and most influential of all Enlightenment thinkers, probably even out of the Philosophes, in my own opinion, he pioneered the idea of "natural rights" including life, liberty and property.



Therefore, you Fail my good man!

Fuck you man, like you wouldn't get that shit mixed up if you watched lost and never heard of that guy before.

Age: 14

Attention Span in S.S: 4 Minutes, Standard Deviation of 2.6 Minutes

LOL

lighten up, it was a joke

but locke was up there with Voltaire, Rousseau and company

Ya know corperations have aleways been able to contribute to political campaigns. Any 5013c, while non profit, is a corporation. so, Incedentally is the demacratic and republican parties. companies hire lobbyist as do special interest groups which are, you guessed it, corporations. even organizations like the NRA, NAACP and AARP are all corporations. so you see that exclusion was actually discrinination against companies that actually produce things that people need.

Nihil wrote:Age: 14

Attention Span in S.S: 4 Minutes, Standard Deviation of 2.6 Minutes

LOL

lighten up, it was a joke

but locke was up there with Voltaire, Rousseau and company

Honsetly, stop posting. Just stop. Fgogat

Nihil wrote:John Locke

an English Philosopher, he is considered one of the greatest and most influential of all Enlightenment thinkers, probably even out of the Philosophes, in my own opinion, he pioneered the idea of "natural rights" including life, liberty and property.



Therefore, you Fail my good man!

he also believed in the idea of "the government is to serve the people and if it is not in the trust of the people, the people have a right to overthrow it"
Therefore /snap my corner walker xD

MasterFrostBiite wrote:he also believed in the idea of "the government is to serve the people and if it is not in the trust of the people, the people have a right to overthrow it"
Therefore /snap my corner walker xD

You mean the same phrase that's included in the Constitution, and is a founding principle of this country? The one we've forgotten because we're too lazy to actual use our Constitutional rights?

yousa fucked up now. just go up to dem bankers and put a bullet in their heads. only way ur stopping them now.

*Sigh* You're right. *Grabs M1 from closet* Where's Chase headquartered again?

nah, an M1 aint gonna help you now, try my RPG

or my cup

Aardvark wrote:

MasterFrostBiite wrote:he also believed in the idea of "the government is to serve the people and if it is not in the trust of the people, the people have a right to overthrow it"
Therefore /snap my corner walker xD

You mean the same phrase that's included in the Constitution, and is a founding principle of this country? The one we've forgotten because we're too lazy to actual use our Constitutional rights?

Yes, our whole constitution really revolved around Enlightenment ideas and the constitution did use John Locke's ideas about the government, Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness along with Montesquieu's ideas of three branches of gov't for balance of power

I sense... an Asian with spork

I think the system is broken and is not beyond repair. i am not sure there is anyone in public service that has the political will and, more important, the cohones to effect the change. there have been so many changes to and violations of the constitution that the document is almost worthless. we do not need a new one we need to revert back to the original intent of the founding fathers as outlined in the fedralist papers. Democracy and free market capitalism have always worked where ever they are tried, as long as there is appropriate support from the people and the government.

Communism and socialism have always failed or decreased the standard of living for those that are so unfortunate to live under them. even comunist China is loosening the hold they have on their economy and allowing more of a freemarket. even as they crack down on disedents. they will find that democracy and free markets go hand and hand and a balance between the two will be hard to find.