Arizona Immigration Law - Good or Bad?

Please do not post till you know what is in the law. Ignorance is not an excuse here.

I think that the need for this law is just sad. The states should not be tasked with securing a Federal border.

All things considered, this is about as good as it gets, it does not enable the authorities to acost someone because they think they are an illegal but it does require them to check imigration status of someone they are in contact with, someone stopped for speeding for example, if they are unable to produce identification. the requirement to provide ID in such situations is already in place.

You get stopped for speeding what the first thing the cop asks for? License, registration and insurance. If you have all of these there is no problem if you are missing one you will get a ticket or worse. i do not see the difference and i do not see a problem.

Hmm, I read both sides, and if my U.S. Civics is up to date, all this would require is that you have a driver's licence or State I.D. on you when you leave the house. Doesn't seem all that controversial, you get pulled over and you don't have I.D. then you can already end up detained until they find out whether or not you're licensed to drive. If you aren't you get arrested, if you are, then you get fined for not having the license on you. As for on the street things, this just makes it illegal to walk around with no I.D. on you, which isn't a bad thing when you consider that most people who don't either don't have any I.D. and are in the country illegally, or are trying to break the law.

Seems like a minor thing that's getting blown out of proportion. The police pretty much already have this power, this just allows them to check people at random without provocation. I can understand why this is a bother to some people, I've been part of a random inspection myself, and yes it is slightly annoying, but honestly it takes like 5 minutes and you never get bothered again(not including airports).

Your first clue that the law isn't that bad is the fact that they never specifically tell you what it does. I read the Times article, they never tell you what the law states, just that it's "bad". I won't deny that if someone is a racist then yes they can abuse this law, just like they can abuse dozens of other laws, but the spirit of the law isn't one of racial profiling.

Arizona State Senator Explains Anti-Illegal Bill

I know this is a wall of text but this is worth the read, trust me. As i said before, if you do not know what is in the bill, then when you speak you show your self ignorant...

I'm Arizona State Senator Sylvia Allen. I want to explain SB 1070 which I voted for and was just signed by Governor Jan Brewer.

Rancher Rob Krantz was murdered by the drug cartel on his ranch a month ago. I participated in a senate hearing two weeks ago on the border violence, here is just some of the highlights from those who testified.

The people who live within 60 to 80 miles of the Arizona/Mexico Border have for years been terrorized and have pleaded for help to stop the daily invasion of humans who cross their property . One Rancher testified that 300 to 1200 people a DAY come across his ranch vandalizing his property, stealing his vehicles and property, cutting down his fences, and leaving trash. In the last
two years he has found 17 dead bodies and two Koran bibles.

Another rancher testified that daily drugs are brought across his ranch in a military operation. A point man with a machine gun goes in front, 1/2 mile behind are the guards fully armed, 1/2 mile behind them are the drugs, behind the drugs 1/2 mile are more guards. These people are violent and they will kill anyone who gets in the way. This was not the only rancher we heard that day that talked about the drug trains.

One man told of two illegal's who came upon his property one shot in the back and the other in the arm by the drug runners who had forced them to carry the drugs and then shot them. Daily they listen to gun fire during the night it is not safe to leave his family alone on the ranch and they can't leave the ranch for fear of nothing being left when they come back.

The border patrol is not on the border. They have set up 60 miles away with check points that do nothing to stop the invasion. They are not allowed to use force in stopping anyone who is entering. They run around chasing them, if they get their hands on them then they can take them back across the border.

Federal prisons have over 35% illegal's and 20% of Arizona prisons are filled with illegals. In the last few years 80% of our law enforcement that have been killed or wounded have been by an illegal.

The majority of people coming now are people we need to be worried about. The ranchers told us that they have seen a change in the people coming they are not just those who are looking for work and a better life.

The Federal Government has refused for years to do anything to help the border states . We have been over run and once they are here we have the burden of funding state services that they use. Education cost have been over a billion dollars. The healthcare cost billions of dollars. Our State is broke, $3.5 billion deficit and we have many serious decisions to make. One is that we do not have the money to care for any who are not here legally. It has to stop.

The border can be secured. We have the technology we have the ability to stop this invasion. We must know who is coming and they must come in an organized manner legally so that we can assimilate them into our population and protect the sovereignty of our country. We are a nation of laws. We have a responsibility to protect our citizens and to protect the integrity of our country and the government which we live under.

I would give amnesty today to many, but here is the problem, we dare not do this until the Border is secure. It will do no good to forgive them because thousands will come behind them and we will be over run to the point that there will no longer be the United States of America but a North American Union of open borders.

I ask you what form of government will we live under? How long will it be before we will be just like Mexico , Canada or any of the
other Central American or South American countries? We have already lost our language, everything must be printed in Spanish also. We have already lost our history--it is no longer taught in our schools. And we have lost our borders.

The leftist media has distorted what SB 1070 will do. It is not going to set up a Nazi Germany. Are you kidding. The ACLU and the leftist courts will do everything to protect those who are here illegally, but it was an effort to try and stop illegal's from setting up businesses, and employment, and receiving state services and give the ability to local law enforcement when there is probable cause like a traffic stop to determine if they are here legally. Federal law is very clear if you are here on a visa you must have your papers on you at all times. That is the law. In Arizona all you need to show you are a legal citizen is a driver license, MVD identification card,
Native American Card, or a Military ID. This is what you need to vote, get a hunting license, etc.. So nothing new has been added to this law. No one is going to be stopped walking down the street etc...

The Politicians who are in power in DC are angry because we dare try and do something and that something these Politicians wants us to do is just let them come. They want the "Transformation" to continue.

Maybe it is too late to save America . Maybe we are not worthy of freedom anymore. But as an elected official I must try to do what I can to protect our Constitutional Republic . Living in America is not a right just because you can walk across the border. Being an American is a responsibility and it comes by respecting and upholding the Constitution the law of our land which says what you must do to be a citizen of this country. Freedom is not free.

dist /am agreedwit ya