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Post by Ptolemy on Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:00 pm

"The Department of Justice launched an investigation into the 'No Poaching' agreement between Apple and Google in 2010, but details of the case were only made public for the first time yesterday. TechCrunch was the first to sift through the documents, and has uncovered some ostensibly incriminating evidence against not only Google and Apple, but Pixar, Lucasfilm, Adobe, Intel, and Intuit, as well. According to the filings from the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California in San Jose, these companies did indeed enter 'no poach' agreements with each other, and agreed to refrain from soliciting employees. The documents also indicate they collectively sought to limit their employees' power to negotiate for higher salaries."

http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/01/20/1433231/doj-investigates-google-apple-and-others-for-no-poaching-agreement

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"Police in Teaneck, New Jersey, with apparently too much time on their hands, are investigating an offensive wireless network name. Although the police didn't reveal the name, the New York Daily News reports that it was anti-Semitic and racist in nature. The incident is being investigated as a possible 'bias crime.' It's definitely not what proper people do, but a 'bias crime?'"

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/01/20/1313203/police-investigate-offensive-wi-fi-network-name

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http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/01/19/180230/sir-tim-berners-lee-speaks-out-on-sopa

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Re: It is only illegal if you get caught...

Post by Dray The Fingerless on Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:17 pm

people used to complain about no poaching agreements, but its that kind of agreements and stuf in that style that avoid fucking Microsoft from monopolizing a lot of stuff.

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Post by Atlas on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:12 pm

Yea I actually agree with Dray on this one.

"Limit their employs from negotiating higher salaries" lol
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Post by Dray The Fingerless on Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:07 pm

thats not the part i was defending atlas. i was defending the part where youre not allowed to overcome and overpower another smaller company by taking away its resources.

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Post by Ptolemy on Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:27 pm

they made that agreement to keep their employees locked into their jobs. that is colluding to basically hold those employees down and keep them in the same job or with the same company.

That is not fair to the employee.

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Post by Aardvark on Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:35 pm

It's a double edged sword, it has a good and bad point. On the one hand it keeps companies from buying out all the new found talent and monopolizing the industry. On the other it means they can't get job offers until they quit and their talents may be undervalued as a result. However it's fairly easily overcome, poaching involves the company engaging the employee to offer services, but if an employee wants to ask around to see if anyone has a better offer that's fine.

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Post by Dray The Fingerless on Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:26 pm

plus the poaching is just between two companies. the employee is free to pursue jobs in other places wihtout poaching agreement.

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Post by Ptolemy on Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:23 pm

SlashDot wrote:TechCrunch was the first to sift through the documents, and has uncovered some ostensibly incriminating evidence against not only Google and Apple, but Pixar, Lucasfilm, Adobe, Intel, and Intuit, as well.

More than just two companies...


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Post by Dray The Fingerless on Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:25 pm

yes thats 6 major companies, who offer salaries WAYYY above the average to their employees, amongst the hundreds of thousands of other companies in USA alone.

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Post by soran on Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:26 pm

at this point, i really wish i had the attention span to read all that >_<

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Post by Ptolemy on Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:28 pm

I wish you did to...

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Post by soran on Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:34 pm

summary? Very Happy

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Post by Dray The Fingerless on Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:56 pm

no. learn to educate yourself.

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Post by The Exile on Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:03 am

Dray The Fingerless wrote:thats not the part i was defending atlas. i was defending the part where youre not allowed to overcome and overpower another smaller company by taking away its resources.

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